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limhanchung
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I don't want to use any bags. Can it be done if I use an artificial dove?
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I'm not sure I understand what you are asking. I've seen close-up workers use doves. Are you saying you want to use props like dove pans etc. I wouldn't recommend rubber doves for close up. Unless you are doing a comedy routine, it should not be evident to the audience that the bird is not real.

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Actually, I'm making a street video and I want to do a dove routine as an opener. I want to know, what are the restrictions if they are done close-up?
Where can I learn more about doves?
How long does it take to train them?
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There are tons of informational videos and books on the market about doves. I'd be glad to share some ideas with you. The basic questions you have asked are simple. Training can be as little as 6 weeks but can be longer. It all depends on how much time you can spend with them each day.

By "street video", are you saying you are making a film outdoors? This can be difficult with birds. They do fly you know. It's not impossible, difficult. What you do depends on how close the audience is going to be. I would suggest you do something simple as an opener, like a drawer box or similiar prop.

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The audience will be 6-12 feet away. I'm trying to use doves to draw attention.
Using a drawer box will make the audience think a gimmick is used, is there other ways to produce doves?
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You have two choices, props or bags. You might want to try some type of dove in balloon. The audience sees you blowing up a balloon and then you produce a dove. This gives you an attention getter-Why is he blowing up a balloon, a noise factor when the balloon breaks and the visual appeal of a dove. You just need to make sure the dove has been sufficiently trained not to fly away.

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What about silks to dove or streamers to dove?
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You said you didn't want to use bags.

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Where to get the balloon to dove effect?
Will the dove get shocked because of the popping balloon?
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Check out almost any dealer. The effect is called dove in balloon. Some are trays, some are frames. No the dove doesn't get shocked. Of course practice helps get the dove used to the noise.

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Johnny Ace Palmer does amazing dove productions. I have seen the audience sitting "right on top of him" and their jaws dropped when he produced the birds. So it can be done.
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EranRaven, you are correct. Dove work can be done close up. My original response was assuming he meant performing in an actual close up arena like doing card magic at a table. I have seen several performers do a complete dove act in a parlor setting. Almost anything can be done. Afte all, we are magicians aren't we.
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Dove magic can be done close-up if you're doing the right tricks. Some of them must be on stage. The "Dove Streamer" is for stage because it will look too bulky up close. The only problem using an "Invisible Dove Harness," people still see the string up front. Making a dove appear from a silk, using a dove pocket, will work up close.
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Yeah. And Johnny produces two! Hee hee. Well, I have a really cool routine that I will let you use. Actually it's not mine, but no one knows about it. It's a non-bag, non-gimmick, non-prop production in Encyclopedia of Dove Magic. PM me for handling.
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General Grant sells a close up, seated dove production and John Calvert has a bold but cool and deceptive method for producing a dove in a long handled net, that uses NO gimmicks at all! This might be really cool for TV, especially with some Blaine-like minor editing to further disguise the dirty work.
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