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Terry Holley
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I would think that with the popularity of the series and the epic film opening on December 9, some of you Bizarrists must have come up with something! Any thoughts?

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Will have to wait and see. I think, if they hold true to the books, it will have a very heavy, if veiled, christian overtone. Not that this is a bad thing, but it could possibly limit the direction some go with it, unless we look to the White Witch for inspiration! ;}
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Actually the popularity of a thing can make a Bizarrist avoid it!

The last thing I want people is people to know what's coming!
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I would indeed be shocked if the movie did not have Christian overtures.(But that does not mean that they will be realized by the masses.)
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I must confess that I haven't read the books (yet), but I know that Tolkien was a fervent Christian too, and that there even "lord of the rings" has a lot of Christian philosophy and background in it.
Still, I don't think it was too obvious in the books and not obvious at all in the movie.
Personally I don't like it when a fantasy story moralizes TOO much, but I really look forward to "Narnia" anyhow.
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I admit that I found the books to be very strong in the inference area, but then it was more than a few years back, and my personal life at the time may have influenced my perceptions! (Still will be going to see the movie though!)

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As a kid I only ever read the first book in this series and was so turned off by the Christian propaganda it effused that I never bothered to read any of the rest of the series.
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Tolkien disliked the Narnia books' straightforward allegory. I think they contain something profound and valuable but I also largely agree with the usual objections as phrased by Tolkien, Moorcock, Pullman, etc. I expect in some ways the film is better than the book deserves; it has Tilda Swinton, anyway.

What experience do people have using overtly fictional milieux for bizarre magic? With adults, with children?
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For your intentions in using it to theme a routine you do not have to make it overtly religious in nature. Use the template of Good vs. Evil. The old tried and true. Let people take from it what they will.

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How do you tell "Good" from "Evil"?

Good people get into bad moods and evil people can seem very nice when they want to.

So what's left? Costumes?
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You are right Sir Jonathan. The good guys always wear the white hats. ;0) Or so I've been told.

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He he he! SOMEtimes they wear the white hats...
Hey D! good to see you
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Thanks Kay! It's good to be seen.
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Yes, Doug, welcome home.

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I have been in a stage production of LW&TW so I have faith that the script could still be sucessful and exicting without as blatant parallels seen in some of the books.

To answer another question, if you are watching Fox's "24" then the goodies are using Mac, Ericsons, LG's and drive Nissans. (Whereas the baddies use PCs, Dells, Nokias and drive mainly Fords)

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Thank you as well Mark. It's good to see the ole gang.

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Smile Now I've read everything: a children's book with fauns, witches, lions, magic candy, and an interdimensional portal via furniture is called...

...."Christian propaganda."

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On 2005-11-29 22:13, Brian Turntime wrote:
:whatthe: Now I've read everything: a children's book with fauns, witches, lions, magic candy, and an interdimensional portal via furniture is called...

...."Christian propaganda."

snort Smile


All I remember of this book is seemingly every other page Aslan proclaiming "I was born on Xmas" nudge, nudge, wink wink. It was far too blatant to be allegory thus my (perhaps unfair)label of propaganda. But hey if the religious zealots out there can label the Harry Potter Books as Pagan Propaganda than I have no qualms labeling the Narnia books as just the opposite.
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On 2005-11-29 22:13, Brian Turntime wrote:
:whatthe: Now I've read everything: a children's book with fauns, witches, lions, magic candy, and an interdimensional portal via furniture is called...

...."Christian propaganda."

snort Smile


For some (HUGE AMOUNT OF) discussion on that topic, have a look via google or similar search engine. While not necessarily "propaganda" in the proselytizing or evangelical sense, the works were written with strong Christian themes.
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On 2005-11-29 22:13, Brian Turntime wrote:
:whatthe: Now I've read everything: a children's book with fauns, witches, lions, magic candy, and an interdimensional portal via furniture is called...

...."Christian propaganda."

snort Smile


All I remember of this book is seemingly every other page Aslan proclaiming "I was born on Xmas" nudge, nudge, wink wink. It was far too blatant to be allegory thus my (perhaps unfair)label of propaganda. But hey if the religious zealots out there can label the Harry Potter Books as Pagan Propaganda than I have no qualms labeling the Narnia books as just the opposite.
Life is balance.


I don't find the label unfair at all. Like everything else Lewis wrote, Narnia is an attempt to push the Christian message. When I was a teenager I tried to read The Screwtape Letters, which I thought would be interesting. What a bore!
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