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JeffHall Regular user Davis, California 161 Posts 
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Has anyone done the table magic trick using your kitchen knife/paddle move? This routine is done in Mark Wilson's Book on page 311, Dots Magic. I like using stuff you find at kitchen table for magic. Any opinon?
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RevJohn Inner circle Oregon City Oregon, Oregon 2473 Posts
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David Acer has a routine where you use a pair of tweezers... grab an item, and do the paddle move, I believe.
Seemed to me to be a pretty creative way of working the common day object. |
David Acer V.I.P. 177 Posts
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Hi RevJohn,
That's not mine, I'm sorry to say - that's Pete McCabe's, although I did write the trick up for Magicana. It's a bill change called "A Hundred Fold" that appears in the current issue of Genii (December, 2005). And the idea of using long-nose tweezers in this manner actually belongs to John Bannon. |
MJ Marrs Inner circle Los Angeles 1123 Posts
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On 2005-11-28 14:26, JeffHall wrote: John Carney also has an excellent version that would be worth looking into. http://www.carneymagic.com |
Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts
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It's an old classic, I believe written up with handlings from Charlie Miller and Dai Vernon... that's where it found its way to John Carney.
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RevJohn Inner circle Oregon City Oregon, Oregon 2473 Posts
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David,
Thanks for the correction... remember reading it, and remembered your effect called, "Photo Finish" and my mind went one way as reality went the other. You really should let me go with it, cause when I am done, Oooohh the effects you will have created. Amazing. Truly. John |
Eric Jones V.I.P. Director of Product Development 2101 Posts
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Also check Edwin Sachs Sleight of Hand. There is an older effect using the same move with a dinner/butter knife there.
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Leland Stone Inner circle 1204 Posts
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I've seen this one written up in various sources, too, but in the ones I recall the butter knife has an obvious orientation -- shown in the line drawings accompanying the directions. The blade is depicted as asymetrical, with an obvious left and right side; bits of paper napkin are stuck on as needed for the pips, and the moves then proceed.
This has always struck me as a weak spot in the presentation -- as a sharp-eyed spec might notice the blade orientation at a critical juncture. However, I've never used this variation. What of it, Magi? Does this one pass under the radar with proper handling, or have you ever been "burned" with this prop? |
vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10960 Posts
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It nwas also written up in classic secretes of magic bruce elliot and john scarnes books.yes this a very old effect
vinny |
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Eric Jones V.I.P. Director of Product Development 2101 Posts
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On 2005-12-08 10:35, Leland Stone wrote: I noticed the same thing when performing it in restaurants for laymen. I opt to place the "pips" on the handle of the knife rather than the blade. It made the paddle move slightly more difficult, but gave the illusion symmetry that would not have been possible if performed the other way. As David Roth would say," There's a trade off....." If performed with the proper attitude and audience management, I really don't think it would be much of a problem to peform the way described in print.
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Matt Pulsar Inner circle 1130 Posts
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Bill Palmer has a nice little book that gives the history of the paddle move, there are many explinations of the knife paddle.
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Magiguy Inner circle Seattle, WA 5473 Posts
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I've seen a few variations in Hugard's Magic Monthly (or Martin Gardner's Encyclopedia...)too. Hey Vinny, thanks for reminding me about the Bruce Elliot book. I just might have to pull it down off the shelf today.
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Er1tro Regular user Italy 124 Posts
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I've read some years ago a version that uses water to stick three salt or sugar dots on the knife's blade and then remove some of them and let them reappear.
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Dr_J_Ayala Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts
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I believe that a version of this may be found in the Self-Working Table Magic book by Karl Fulves (if not that particular book, then one of the Fulves books) and I think that version used little black magnets on a ferromagnetic knife. There are two more books that I have seen this in that are not mentioned above, and at the moment, the titles escape my memory.
I would have to check, but Now You See It, Now You Don't by Bill Tarr may have it as well. |
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taiga Veteran user Chicoutimi, Qc 317 Posts
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On 2005-11-28 14:26, JeffHall wrote: I often did it with the blade cover of salt. Once it is cover, you separate each side of the blade in three parts. then you eliminate one part on one side and the other side seems to "follow" each of your action. Once the three parts of each side have disappear, in a split second the three parts comes back on each side and you repeat the routine of disappearing each parts. At the end, the knife is normal. I always had/have very good reactions with it! |
Damian Veteran user 363 Posts
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I'm a big fan of the butter-knife version. I've been performing it 4-5 years, now, and I've never had a spec point out the discrepancy.
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Motley Mage Special user 572 Posts
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The objections regarding the assymetry of the blade are valid, but truthfully (as evidenced by the brilliance of color-changing knife routines that usually have similar "weaknesses")if the move(s) are done smoothly and with good direction, it is excedingly rare that even an eagle-eyed spectator would pick up on the shifting curve of the blade. It's all in the presentation and performance.
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rhettbryson Elite user Greenville, SC Not ashamed of his 406 Posts
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It is true that there re routines for the paddle move done with table knives in multiple sources. I fondly remember the routine done with a table knife and small wet pieces of napkin as found in Martin Gardner's fabulous Encyclopedia of Impromptu Magic. (That book is a treasure trove for magicians wanting splendid things do "out there.")
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runt_jorden New user 63 Posts
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This is a great piece of Magic. Presentation is key to any trick or miracle. People always ask me to the one with knife again when I approach the table à second time.
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