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Lonnie Dilan Special user Canyon Country, California 823 Posts 
I was wondering if anyone here uses it, and where can I read and learn about it?


Scott F. Guinn Inner circle "Great Scott!" aka "Palms of Putty" & "Poof Daddy G" 6584 Posts 
Unfortunately, the original manuscript describing it in detail has been out of print for sometime. There are a number of individual routines using it.
You'll find some in: Duffie's "Effortless Card Magic" "The Card Magic of Nick Trost" "Off The Wall" by Ben Harris Max Maven's tapes and books This is by no means a complete list, just somewhere to start.
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gilbreath76 Loyal user 279 Posts 
"It is a thing of terrifying beauty," as Max Maven puts it. I first learned of this principle in Maven's VideoMind series in a trick called the "Mocking Bird." What a sweet principle! Spectators may shuffle your stack, which is so convincing. There is a book out by Steve Mayhew and Jack Carpenter called ANGELS MAY SHUFFLE BUT THE DEVIL STILL DEALS. This book is solely dedicated to the Gilbreath principle. H&R BOOKS carries it, but they are out of stock.


Jim Morton Veteran user 361 Posts 
Lonnie,
A couple years ago, I wrote a short article that explains how the Gilbreath Principle works. Check your email. If anyone else is interested, drop me a line and I'll email it to you. Jim 

Joshua Quinn Inner circle with an outer triangle 2050 Posts 
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What a great title. Did they come up with it, or is it from something else?
Every problem contains the seeds of its own solution. Unfortunately every problem also contains the seeds of an infinite number of nonsolutions, so that first part really isn't super helpful.


Lonnie Dilan Special user Canyon Country, California 823 Posts 
Thanks Jim!
That was very cool of you. 

themagicl New user 15 Posts 
You’re in luck!
At the end of the month, Norman Gilbreath himself will be teaching a class on his principle at the Magic Castle in Hollywood. Contact them for details. 

Steve Hook Inner circle Raleigh, NC, USA 1264 Posts 
In case anyone is still interested in the "Angels..." routine, it's available in ebook form from Chris Wasshuber at:
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MarkFarrar Veteran user U.S.A. 376 Posts 
It is also covered, along with many other mathematical principles, in Arthur McTier's book "Card Concepts".
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maratekin Regular user 148 Posts 
I'd second the recommendation to the book "Card Concepts" by Arthur McTier. It was a bit difficult to find here in the States, but H&R came through for me.
Mark 

Eddini_81976 Inner circle 2183 Posts 
I do the Mockingbird and love it, and kinda have a idea how it works, but not really. In the Mockingbird I have the full deck shuffled once as Max Maven teaches, but can it be shuffled more than once? Thanks, Ed, (Eddini).
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Kephri Regular user Stockholm Sweden 195 Posts 
I'd also like to second the earlier recommendations
to MacTier's "Card Concepts". Apart from giving one of the best explanation I've ever read to why and how the principle works you also get in all 35 different routines using this thing of terrifying beauty ! When tired of that you can test some of the other 29 or so principles in the book... 

S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts 
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On 20041103 20:53, Eddini_81976 wrote: I don't recall the details of the effect  it's been a long time since I've seen the tape  but the general answer (to shuffling more than once with Gilbreath effects) is: "No." 

trickster2000 Loyal user Toronto 279 Posts 
I believe theres a routine(s) on the Sal Piacente card dvd's that use this..


RazzleDazzle Regular user Minnesota 107 Posts 
The card magic of Nick Trost has quite a few routines that use the gilbreath principle...


Magicmike1949 Special user 647 Posts 
David Williamson's "Aunt Mary's Terrible Secret" is a dynamite trick based in part on this principle.


Kephri Regular user Stockholm Sweden 195 Posts 
You can also find a chapter on Gilbreath Principle
including five different routines in "Card Conspiracy, Vol 1" by Duffie & Robertson. 

Pablo Tejero Inner circle Zaragoza, SPAIN 1201 Posts 
If you read and understand Spanish, a book you must have is Woody Aragon´s "Cosas Mias".
He is a great young cardician from Madrid, specialized in card magic involving mathematical principles. He has routines which are real miracles, and have a great study about the Gilbreath Principle, and what he called, "the new" Gilbreath principle (more or less new applications of the old one, and the combination of this principle with others). All the best magic, Pablo Tejero
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Tielie Special user 749 Posts 
Is this where a spec shuffles the deck and every 4 cards in line are different suites and stuff?
Someone showed it to me and I went over it over and over again and I understand completely now
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Vernest Regular user 169 Posts 
Epilogue magazines(issues 4, 5) covered a lot of the principle. I believe it was issue 4 that had a lot of riffle shuffle setups for the principle as well as effects. Roy Walton has material on this as well, so if Roy has work, I bet Duffie has some as well. As a matter of fact, I bet he has some good ones.
Fulves published some of this as well, and J.W Searles, Gene Finnell, and well...Norman Gilbreath obviously has a lot of it. I remember Marlo had some effects with it as well. The one I can remember is where all the cards are taken out two at a time and shown to be red/black, but the ones that are not endup being the selections. 

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