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Jolan Vanderdark New user The Brownsville City Morgue 54 Posts |
Several Months ago, I started learning coin vanishes and sleights, although there’s several gimmicks that do the same thing, I personally wanted to learn to do this with sleight of hand.
On the classic palm I’m able to now put the quarter in my hand and keep it there, and it will stay in place "most of the time" if I keep my fingers and thumb straight. Sometimes I’m even able to use my pinky and ring finger without it falling out, though I’d like to be able to use my whole hand normally. Also I’ve practiced this palm so much that theirs almost a permeate indention in my hand for the quarter. As I want to do vanishes with Kennedy half dollars, this coin seems to big, and the area I finally am getting trained for the quarter is too little. Anybody have any suggestions on this. Thanks.
Yes....Eventually you will come to me.
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Lucas Walker Regular user Missouri 125 Posts |
When I'm practicing palming a coin of a size I'm not used to, I try two things. The first is palming a coin that I'm used to palming (for you a quarter) and then before I try the half dollar I palm a silver dollar for a moment. If you are used to palming smaller coins then your hand is relieved to finally palm the half dollar because it is so much smaller than the silver. Also whenever I'm walking anywhere I have my hands in my pockets going through all the palms. That way if I drop a coin I have a safety net . Since I walk alot around campus I have alot of practice time that would otherwise be wasted. Good luck.
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what Special user Lehi, UT, USA 643 Posts |
You should be able to have a very natural look to your hadn and wiggle all fingers naturally when you classic palm. If you're pinky is stif or bent, you might be using the wrong muscle to accomplish the palm. Be sure to visit ww.coinvanish.com and click on the "Foundations" section. Dan Watkins has done a supurb job explaining the correct way to palm a coin with very good visuals. You will need to pass a 1 question test, but that isn't an issue if you have Bobo's book (And who doesn't)
best of luck
Magic is fun!!!
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Wiseguy5009 New user 16 Posts |
Pretty much the best advie that I can think of is to practice, practice, practice. Your muscles in your hand will become more attuned and stronger, thus being able to palm longer and more naturally.
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Magicrma Regular user Arizona 101 Posts |
When Albert Goshman was doing a lecture tour he said that he had a coin palmed in both hands at all times until it became second nature. He worked well with all size coins. The position of the coin in the palm of your hand is important as well as the look of your hand to your audience. Wiseguy5009 is right lots of practices develops the skills necessary.
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Full Effect Loyal user Los Angeles 257 Posts |
You should start out with Half dollars.
You stated that you wanted to work with Kennedy half dollars, so why are you trying to hard to plam quarters? Forget about the quarters and go right into half dollars. Even though they are not a comon coin anymore. The average size hand can easily learn to palm them with in days. Because of their size the magic is more visible. You dont want your spectators to be sqinting to see say spellbound routine with small coins. Start out your day by having a half plammed in each hand. Do it while driving, typing, writing, even shaking hands. Thats the best way to practice. Once you master that try classic plamming multiple coins.
"Running water never becomes stale, so keep flowing" - Immortal Dragon Bruce Lee
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Magicbarry Loyal user Toronto 276 Posts |
I also say just keep practising.
When I first started classic palming back when the Earth was cooling, my hand looked like a claw. But by constantly palming coins of all sizes, I got to the point where the classic palm was second nature. It's not something that just suddenly clicks. There's no "oh, THAT'S what I've been doing wrong!" It's something that develops. It sounds to me like you've started on the road to developing a good classic palm, Jolan. Just keep working that coin into your palm, and letting your hand develop. |
Jeff Chesnut New user Ada, Michigan 56 Posts |
You mentioned that "I’m able to now put the quarter in my hand and keep it there, and it will stay in place "most of the time" if I keep my fingers and thumb straight." That may be part of your problem. When you keep your thumb and fingers straight, not only does your hand look unnatural (and, therefore, suspicious), you also flatten your palm, making it difficult to retain a coin.
When your hands are relaxed, there is a slight curve to your fingers. This also brings the muscles of the palm of the hand closer. Try keeping your hands relaxed, it looks natural and palming is actually easier. |
Jolan Vanderdark New user The Brownsville City Morgue 54 Posts |
Thanks to all the replies. I'm working on the half dollar now, and am able to palm it pretty well. I can already pull some vanishes by sleight on my 10 year old niece, and 6 year old nephew, but it's going to probably be a couple more months of palming before I try on an adult in the family, then even more for someone i don't know. I just keep practicing everywhere i go.
Yes....Eventually you will come to me.
And Ohhh...What Sights I Have To Show You!! |
r4bid Veteran user 386 Posts |
Well here is how I learned to classic palm well.
I took two half dollars with me everywhere I went for a week long vacation that I was on. Literally every time I left the hotel room I put a coin in each hand and tried to hold them for as long as I could while moving my hands about doing whatever I was diong that day. At first it was really challanging but by the end of the trip I was able to do it with ease and had worked my way up to a few coins per hand while retaining a wide range of movement. May I also suggest that you always palm while on a computer, just put a coin in the hand that is not using the mouse(probably your left) and try to not think about it. And as the other have said you want your hand to look natural, being able to flatten out your palm is not really usefull unless you are going to lie your hand against a table surface in which case you should just be using a thumb clip or something like that and not a classic palm. It will take time to get good but you will be able to do it well eventually. |
wsduncan Inner circle Seattle, WA 3619 Posts |
Jolan,
I'm amazed that no one told you the most important thing about the Classic Palm: It's a momentary thing. Most advanced coin workers move the coin between palm postions so that the audience gets the impression they have seen the entire hand empty. Thumb palm and Purse Palm allow the back of the hand to be held very flat. A position that's impossible with the classic palm. Classic Palm (and the so-called Kaps/Malini subtlety) allow the fingers to be seen open and apart. Finger Palm allows you to show the "palm" empty. Fingertip Rest allows the hand to appear complely free of tension and provides an intermediary postion between other palm concealments. As you get used to holding a coin in Classic Palm it will require less tension to maintain the grip. Nothing but time and practice will make that happen. Learn to move the coin between palms under cover of natural actions like picking up an object from the table and passing it to the other hand. cheers bill |
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