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mackmania
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I recently discovered this wonderful routine from Martin Lewis. I was wondering, as it's one of the best magic routines out there (IMO), if it could close a mental show? If I played it up as if it would be my last prediction for the night, then get it wrong, and the card begins rising from the drawing. I do understand it is not a mentalism routine, but in my magic shows, this routine gets the best praise out of all of them. Also, to completely change the subject, what do you think about Kenton Knepper? I have nothing created by him, but have heard mixed opinions about his work. I'm also interested in Jermay's material sold through Knepper. Any thoughts?

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Due to the way the routine is set up, I would say you are doing a disservice to a mentalistic routine by ending with this. There are much better closers that are more appropriate to a mental show. Now if you are doing a magic show that is something else entirely.
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Agree with you Catoe, although it does soun like he is doing a magic / mentalism show..

Mack Mania:

I wouldn't recommend Jermay or Knepper to you, not because they are not good but it is heavy mentalism where as I feel with what I can gather from you post Larry Becker would be more suitable..

Look for a book called Stunners Plus..

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Mack, here's my 2 cents: Give it a try and see. You'll find out soon enough whether it works for your act or not.

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Andrew has a good idea. Larry's material would most likely be very good for you. It has that mental flair without being so heavy as to be out of place. You may also want to look into Martin Lewis's Technicolor Prediction since you appear to like his thinking.
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I don't think there's a problem. Try it, use it... And if your audience likes it, you shouldn't care about what other mentalists say. It's all about the bond between you and your audience anyway.
That having said, I understand your feelings. I doubted about whether or not to use this very same routine.
Still, what I 've decided doesn't matter because you have to find out for yourself if it works in your show or not.
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It's funny you'd mention Stunners Plus! I'm only 13, so it's at the top of my Christmas List. I tend to like the "light way" of performing mentalism. I think an audience would have a hard time connecting with a man with a thirteen inch long beard. I prefer Osterlind's and the guys at Mentalism Unlimited's style more. I have Lewis's DVDs and have seen Technicolor Prediction, it's just never appealed to me. I'll try Cardiographic at one of my mentalism shows. I also hope to get a gold mine of performing gems on Christmas. As I said, the top few things are Mind Mysteries Too, Stunners Plus, and (I know it's not mentalism) Dean's Box. Any further comments on what would be a nice item for this joyous occasion? My list is quite comprehensive. I have Video Mind, PSI Series, and the original Mind Mysteries. Any good tricks from Mentalism Unlimited?

Cheers,
mackmania

P.S. If anyone has any links to video demos for Mentalism Unlimited products (besides Double Vision) I'd be happy to see them? Thanks again.
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On 2005-12-04 19:03, mackmania wrote:
I recently discovered this wonderful routine from Martin Lewis. I was wondering, as it's one of the best magic routines out there (IMO), if it could close a mental show?


I'd suggest you do three things. First, determine what is your definition of "mentalism". Second, determine what someone doing your version of mentalism would do in his act. Third, determine what is the effect of Cardiographic, and see if that fits your definition of mentalism.

If it doesn't fit, find something that does.

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