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hugh martin
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I know that the title is a bit of topic but seriously no har feelings.
I just want to ask why do magicians or any line of art form dress to impress.
I know that some one will say to make your self look professional well it does make sense but in my country (ireland) it is kinda snoby.
I'm am not that old and I'm wondering why do people spend 200-? on attire.
why this attire I thought bussiness people just dressed like this.
on xtream beginers it says "dress to impress or you will get this as your payment.
I thought the word magician conjours up images of top hats and bunny rabits now it is advanced neatly dressed person.

thank you for reading my moan
tell me what you think
prove me wrong (no insults ,personal attacks ect)
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My take on looking like a magician has nothing to do with top hats or tuxedos. I feel that you should either be the best dressed person in the room or the strangest dressed person in the room, I prefer the ladder of the two myself. I don't think that a suit and ties makes or breaks you as a magician. You should wear what you are comfortable in not what you "think" you should wear. If you like a tux or a suit or all leather then that is what you should go with. It's all in the attitude and your presentaion that makes you a magician not your clothes. If that were the case then we should wear robes and pointy Merlin hat so that we look like wizards.
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I believe it's a simple matter of "Packaging Counts". When you hit the supermarket and have to decide between two brands or the same product, packaging can make a difference. If you're looking at the same product and one is marked 5 Euros while the other is marked 15 Euros, you may be far more likely to buy the cheaper product UNLESS the packaging of the more expensive product makes you feel like THAT is the true bargain.

If you dress for your shows in 20 Euro jeans and and a T-shirt and charge 100 Euros for a show...people are gonna look at you as if you're nuts...BEFORE they ever see you perform. You may never get that chance. On the other hand, if you DRESS in a 200 Euro suit and charge 200 Euros for a show, you may stand a better chance of earning that extra quid.

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***, are they using Euros in North Carolina now?
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LOL! Heck yeah, Vandy! They haven't reached Milwaukee, yet?!? Ahem! I was TRYING to relate the discussion to our IRISH guest in a manner more conducive to his scope of experience...as a good host should, no? :o)

So, for a Milwaukean I might have said something like "...one is valued at, like, 5 bottles of Schlitz while the other is valued at, like, a 12-point Buck..." See!

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Ya-hey dere, now your speaking my language!! LOL. I must have missed that part where he said he was from Ireland. Now I get it. LOL.
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...Of course I have NO idea where I might have got the impression that you're a deer hunter!

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Actually Skip. I don't hunt deer. Most of my friends do, but I hate venison. I stick to fishing and a little bird hunting. Beer, however, is a staple of my diet.
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Ahhh...see there. At a glance, I always thought that was a deer head mounted over your left shoulder for some off-the-wall reason. As for beer...it has all the minerals one needs in life, I reckon...and it's completely vegetarian! Oh wait...that's a different thread!

Reckon I'll mosey along an' call my optometrist now.

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LOL, Skip, I'm not sure what that thing is either. That's one of the cabins that I rent every year for the opening weekend of musky fishing up north in the Rhinelander area. I think that thing on the wall is something the original lodge owners wife made back in 1928. Some kind of arts and crafts. Or else it's some kind of light fixture. That's the sink over there. LOL
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On 2005-12-19 10:12, Skip Way wrote:
At a glance, I always thought that was a deer head mounted over your left shoulder for some off-the-wall reason.


Hahahaha! Well you spoke my mind as I always thought it was a deer as well! Not only that, I thought Vandy might of killed it himself. LOL! Oh boy.... Hehehehe...

May seem minor to the world but its important to clear these matters up.

Oh back to the original post. Regarding dress and performance, do as you like, dress as you will for the paid gigs, and most importantly, take careful note of your client's reaction and comments about you - what they paid for. Also keep a list of repeat business. That's all.

Personally I think it be great to run around stage doing magic wearing the hippie style clothing of Doug Henning. Talk about comfortable! But that was his style and it worked for him and the times. I've actually seen photos of Doug in a tux and I'd say he looked more at home in anything but that. But I have to remind myself of his first impression on me as a performer in the tie dyed clothes and bell bottom pants. It was flashy and trendy for the times.

I'm just glad we have many styles to suit many perfomers and their audience.

I think I mentioned in another post that I once did a manip. act for a Gothic club in Dallas. My costume fit right in with the others (well sort of) as they do a lot of black and white formal but with a victorian or gothic look.

What caught me off guard was they told me I'd have to be made up as showing my regular face was not acceptable. I figured it do no harm as it didn't change or affect the act. Well I looked like death when they were done - what's up with the dark eyes? Makes them look like they haven't slept in ages with bags under their eyes. I reminded a couple of the younger one's that their parents could only wish of getting rid of such an appearance brought on by years of life's ups and downs. They thought it looked cool. Go figure. Someone in the room mentioned something about doing my nails in black. I told them I was only to be on stage for twenty minutes and such fantastic nails would probably go unnoticed.

The show went on and they loved what they saw. I'm just glad I don't have to do that sort of makeup on a regular basis.
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What you wear should be what is required to meet the needs of you client. Nothing else matters. Largely this will mean meeting expectations, however if you do character work, kids parties, or dress ocasions, then expectations will change. I don't feel like any of the replies so far adress the fact that this is a business, and in business, the customer is (almost) always right. If your client, for God knows what reason, wants you to wear a bathing suit and a tanktop, and you have the ability to provide that service, then by gum it's the swimming magician ye shall be.
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With so much varied opinion, this battle of the threads has been interesting. How about a new dress code? Every paid performer wearing a standard uniform. I don't know, it'll be something grey in color and perhaps a one piece outfit. It'll be easy on the eye, won't confuse the audience as they'll eventually associate it with such a performance. It'll stop the bickering among us and debate as to what clothes looks better, which is best suited for today's audience, which is outdated, which is really "with it", and perhaps force some to really exercise their creativity to set themselves apart. You know the sort of "uniformity" we have in the military or private schools. Seems to work there. Hehehehe.

As a child, I attended a private catholic school and a uniform was worn everyday. They spared us the adolescent and shallow value judgements based on whether we wore a $7 pair of sneakers or $115 dollar pair of Jordans. If you were to stand out in the crowd it came from within and didn't rely on the trappings of fashion or material trinkets. After all, we were there to learn and not sell each other or the world on who we were or what we could do using outerwear. Years later I never understood the pressures some public school children experience if they are not wearing certain shoes, clothes, or even colors! You've heard a couple of stories of inner city kids actually being killed for their sneakers! That blows my mind becaue as a child, when the uniform came off, I was quite happy in a pair of hand me down jeans and a white t-shirt - no problem! I'm still a t-shirt guy and always will be.

Of course many of those same kids will argue, for those of us not living in their world, that clothes makes them (whatever that supposed to be) and very possibly may keep them alive or get them killed. Or at the very least tell others in their immediate world who they are, who they want to be, and what they stand for.

Some of us, like myself, feel the same way about what we wear during a gig. Amazing as it may sound to some, ASSUMING YOU ARE GOOD, what is worn that day or evening may make or break many things that affect your act and where it goes in the future - if anywhere.

But given the choice between all magicians wearing a standard grey one piece uniform and the existing variety IE clowns, formal attire, street clothes, characters, business suits, and anything else coming our way, I'll take the latter!

The variety is awesome!
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On 2005-12-19 10:12, Skip Way wrote:
At a glance, I always thought that was a deer head mounted over your left shoulder for some off-the-wall reason.


Hahahaha! Well you spoke my mind as I always thought it was a deer as well! Not only that, I thought Vandy might of killed it himself. LOL! Oh boy.... Hehehehe...

May seem minor to the world but its important to clear these matters up.




LOL that's funny Randy. I guess I can see how it may look like a mounted deer head. Like I said, I don't know myself what it is up on that wall.

Nope, I've never killed or mounted a deer. Well, I tried to mount one once, but it threw me off and ran away. But that's a whole 'nother story entirely.

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Randy, are you the magician who works The Church/Lizard Lounge? I keep hearing about a magician who frequents it every time I go there, but have yet to meet him.
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On 2006-01-18 20:49, JackScratch wrote:
Randy, are you the magician who works The Church/Lizard Lounge? I keep hearing about a magician who frequents it every time I go there, but have yet to meet him.


I visit The Church a couple of times a month but it's not me if someone says they were missing a watch or anything negative for that matter. A friend of mine who lives in the Deep Ellum area invites me over for their stoli and dinner - whatever her nutty mind is in the mood for that evening. Any goths I know or claim know me, is the direct result of our mutual acquanintance in the Deep Ellum area.

As birds of a feather that flock together they can be an interesting subculture and motley crue. I am not a goth nor a vampire. I'm the fellow with a few friends about the Church. If you get a chance, visit and kick back with them, enjoy some deathrock and order lots of stoli please!
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Oh, I spend almost every Christmas Eve at the Church.Now that's a party. I don't think I'm a goth, though I do dearly love eveningwear. Nice dresswear will realy stick in peoples minds. My Brotherin Law and his wife love to go dancing at The Church a lot, but they aren't goths either, just like the music, though I was a little angray after my last visit. What kind of Goth club doesn't have one single song by "Ramstein"?

There are no dress requirment in magic, however what you wear makes a very big impression on your audience. To not take advantage of this would be foolish. You have to be mindful of every aspect of your performance, and it's effect. That includes your clothes.
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