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Jonas Inner circle Sweden 1065 Posts |
Depends if it's about Instant visual productions or
ones where the 4 aces appear during the effect. Instant: Popcorn Production (Mine) Molecule 4 Card Production (Buck Twins) M.r.T.r Production (Mine) During effect: Kickstart Aces (Duffie) Cutting the Aces (No credits known to author.) Dunbury Aces (Charlie Miller, Dave Lederman)
http://www.youtube.com/jonashaglund < Card flourishes and some other stuff.
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joker 55 Special user England. 711 Posts |
I know one from a lecture I went to ages ago, called queens turn, the creator is some magician from Hungary called Dr.Gabor G. Zabor.
I think that's how it's spelt, anyway that is good, the way it is done is quite hard but worth it, you are holding the deck and suddenly the the queens appear in a fan formation sticking out the middle of the deck with one of the queens face up on the top of the deck, I don't know if I can give it to you, it is in a load of lecture notes, PM me if you want more info. |
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Nathan Kranzo V.I.P. 2955 Posts |
Ok....
I think it should be a new rule that you can't reference an effect that is only known to yourself (in other words any effect titled "mine"). Unless of course you plan on sharing it.. Thanks, Nathan
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joker 55 Special user England. 711 Posts |
Well, this isn't mine, its from a Hungarian magician.
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therntier Special user 681 Posts |
I really like Earl Nelson's Sleeve Aces. If you are doing a set of magical effects for an audience, I think it may be better to magically produce the aces rather than a demonstration of skill. It makes a little more sense.
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Luke Dancy Inner circle Las Vegas 1157 Posts |
One of my favorites is an ace production from Nate's first DVD and also published in his 'Things with Cards' set of notes. The thing looks pretty wild. I can't remember what it's called though! Hmmm, if I only knew!
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Nathan Kranzo V.I.P. 2955 Posts |
The Dancy Revelation by Luke Da Puka!
Kranzo
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bblumen Special user Baltimore 987 Posts |
Which one of Frank Thompson's revelations are you talking about? He had more versions of this than Marlo had of Spectator Cuts. Are you referring to the one published in The Cold Deck?
BrianB
"Lulling the minds of your company is more important than dazzling their eyes." Ed Marlo
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Nathan Kranzo V.I.P. 2955 Posts |
Yes....that is the one.
As far as I know that is the only published one so I didn't want to comment on the others. I have the COLD DECK manuscript but if memory serves me right it didn't have a name. Please help me clear this up. Thanks, Nathan
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Ed Oschmann Inner circle Lake Worth FL 1011 Posts |
I've always liked having three face up kings on top of the deck with a face down king on top. Then perform Ben Harris' Super Flip. I get big ooh aahs with that one.
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bblumen Special user Baltimore 987 Posts |
Flash Ace Opener was the name of the production in The Cold Deck. Frank had a method that was/is the best I have witnessed to date. After showing this to Mickey Ford at Kenzo's in Baltimore, Mickey offered his left gonad for me to show him the work. Not mine to divulge. Maybe one day in the distant future Frank's notes will be published.
BrianB
"Lulling the minds of your company is more important than dazzling their eyes." Ed Marlo
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scorch Inner circle 1480 Posts |
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On 2005-12-08 02:04, RMoreland wrote: I watched the video, and although it is a cut above most performances that involve a lot of flourishing, it suffered from the same drawback. All of the flourishing is just visually confusing and serves only to take any sense of magic away from the ace production. It just looks like another flourish. Impressive from a skill standpoint, but no sense of magic whatsoever. |
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cardguy2 New user Moore Oklahoma 57 Posts |
Jack Split By KC Usijima very quick and most inportantly very visual!
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RMoreland Regular user Orlando, Florida 181 Posts |
I hear ya Scorch,
And I couldn't agree more. I think flourishes can be poison if they are not used creatively. I just love to watch a deck of cards get handled in this manner, it looks artistic to me, but I am sure someone who does not handle a pack of cards all the time could become confused by all this juggling. To each his own but I thought it was a masterful performance and give this man major kudos for it. Would I say it was a magical performance? It all depends on what your definition of a magical experience is. I think "Cirque Du Soleil" is very magical when I see one of their shows, but it is just a lot aerobics and circus stunts. Oh well, to me it was still magical and as far as I am concerned that is all that matters. I think magic like this has a future and I can't wait to see that future unfold. It is a bit extreme, but I think in a few more years when these guys that are doing this kind of stuff have created solid acts around this style of theirs, it will be a neat era in magic History. I guess I am just an optimist. Thank you for the response. I love your posts Scorch, They always make me think. Hope one day we can talk about this in person. Until then. Take care, Robert Moreland |
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Ryan Matney Regular user 189 Posts |
My vote goes for the original sleeve aces by Al Leech and Lepaul's gymnastic aces.
I also like the original Jennings revelation (the variations are not as good imo) but I use the first two far more often.
www.pocket-tricks.com
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fasr eddie Regular user 182 Posts |
Can someone give me a reference as to where I can find Peter Duffie's KICKSTART ACES please?
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Jaz Inner circle NJ, U.S. 6111 Posts |
Frank Garcia's "Quadruple Coincidence" from 'Stars Of Magic' vid.
Paul Harris' "4 Ace Revelation" from 'Stars Of Magic' vid. "Up the Ladder Aces" by Skinner from 'The Collected Almanac'. For reproduction I like J.C. Wagner's "Fab Four Revisited" from 'The Commercial Magic Of J.C. Wagner'. |
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magico Special user Connecticut 862 Posts |
Radical Aces by Bill Malone.
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scorch Inner circle 1480 Posts |
Robert,
I agree with your post almost completely. I also think that this newer art form of flourishing (completely divorced from its traditional role in card magic) has a lot of potential, and I absolutely appreciate the mastery and creativity that many people exhibit. I just happen to think that it's a mistake to try to do "magic" in the middle of all of it. It doesn't work and it isn't really necessary. I think that a lot of flourishers probably do magic because they feel that flourishing came out of the discipline of card magic. But when the flourishing becomes so extreme that it not only detracts from the magic, but becomes the actual focal point of the performance, for the most part I wish these guys would just stick to doing amazing acrobatic things with a deck of cards. The only thing I would take issue with is your definition of what sorts of performances give a magical impression. I've seen Yo Yo Ma play cello and I can tell you that it is indeed "magical" in a very broad sense of the word, in that it evokes wonder and astonishment, and much much more. The same can be said, as you mentioned, for Cirque de Soleil. And in this much more broad definition, yes I will grant you that a performance of card flourishing can be quite magical. But in the sense of the art form of card magic, that which Dai Vernon, Ed Marlo, Paul Harris, John Bannon, Guy Hollingworth, and the vast majority of the guys on this forum have been and are dedicated to, no I do not think that card flourishing is in any way "magical," because the overt exhibition of skill and dexterity abdicates any sense of magic. Flourishers, Cirque de Soleil and Yo Yo Ma do not appear to make the impossible happen in a beautiful, expressive way. Enjoying, impressive, moving, emotional, expressive, and engaging most certainly, but none of these performers are "magical" in the more specific sense that applies to the art of conjuring. Something else for you to think about: For how long do you think a masterful card magician can keep you entertained before you get bored? For how long do you think a masterful flourisher can keep you entertained before you get bored? For me the answer could literally be hours for the former, and perhaps two or three minutes for the latter. I guess I do not share your optimism that flourishing can be so developed that it could actually entertain audiences for long enough to be considered a substantive performing art in its own right, but we shall see... |
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DomKabala Inner circle I've grown old after diggin' holes for 2827 Posts |
Quote: Roberto Giobbi (CC Vol. V, pp. 1183) renamed the effect "Thompson's Aces", which was originally baptized as "Flash Opener" in "Frank Thompsons Cold Deck" by Ray Goulet, The Magic Book Co.: Watertown; 1976 pg. 1. This is where I found this gem. Frank Garcia's "Sign Of Four" another excellent 4 Ace revelation is found on pg. 1199 of the same volume. Cheers!!
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