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Anthony? Have you managed to connect the dots yet? I am quite curious as to what you think I have wrong in this description.
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I don't do shows anymore Danny why should that change my 10 plus years experience earning a living full time from stage work...

No I don't do shows but I have created programmes for the government for ex drug users and I have enabled companies such as Mercedes Benz break sales records using hypnosis....but why should that make any difference..

In my experience doing shows there people who can be made to do almost anything and there are people who do not want to be hypnotised but end up on stage. Are you seriously telling us they are hypnotising themselves.

If that were the case why don't you send your next show a powerpoint and let them hypnotise themselves?

>>>>I thought it was also, but apparently not. I am shocked at having to explain this stuff. Heck I mention it at the OPENING of my show 7 nights a week! <<<<

You explain it so it must be true? Or is it that it allevaites fears and makes the audience more recpetive to being hypnotised? More likely your explanation is part of the hypnosis process that you are using GET THEM TO VOLUNTEER.

Politicians, religeon and advertisers have been mass hypotising us for years...

There is no such thing as all hypnosis is self hypnosis....

Believe what you want...
Dannydoyle
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Like it or not, it is ALL self hypnosis, and nothing you posted changes this fact. You can be delusional and think you have some sort of power, you can be delusional and think it is you all you like, but the bottom line is that you are little more than a tour guide. This is what it amounts to. You are fooling yourself if you think any differently.
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Danny, whilst I agree with you in the main, would you accept that there 'might be' exceptions to the rule?
ie: is it remotely possible that some of the stories about hypnosis robbery might be true?
Or what about that Asian guy who does instant statuing on the street?
Albeit for the latter I would assume he's already met them earlier and that these are the re-intros.
But my main question is: would you consider it 'possible' that there are exceptions?

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Dannydoyle
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Is it "possible"? Who knows? I see no evidence that it would be.

Anything is possible, but I have seen no evidence of such things.

Is it "possible" that those robberies happened? Sure why not? But I think it is far more likely forms of misdirection, confussion, and people in on it than it is any form of "trance".

Now lets not get into the "what is trance" discussion, because it is pointless. In terms of the show, it is ALL self hypnosis. Outside the show, I guess anything is possible.
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ALL SELF-HYPNOSIS IS HYPNOSIS
Then you'll rise right before my eyes, on wings that fill the sky, like a phoenix rising!
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>>>>Now lets not get into the "what is trance" discussion, because it is pointless. In terms of the show, it is ALL self hypnosis. Outside the show, I guess anything is possible.<<<<


Its about as pointless as this discussion you believe what you want to believe. My experience tells me that that isn't the case. I know someone who doesn't want to be hypnotised yet everytime he is at a show he can't resist.

Its got to the point where he won't go to another show for fear of getting up.
He doesn't hypnotise himself. He responds to the hypnotic process.

He is also a salesmans dream. He is extremely suggestable.
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Name and addrees please. I need to get rid of a 1983 ford escort with three bald tyres and two hanging dice.
Of coure we aren't really arguing over whether trance exists (or needs to) or not. But rather revealing our own individual models of what we believe it to be. By the way, my beliefs can change. Can yours?
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I think the real discussion here is one of definition, not fact. So far, nobody has defined the difference between self-hypnosis and heterohypnosis. Likewise, nobody has defined what they mean by hypnotizing someone against their will.

For example, Bobser writes about alleged stories of hypnotic robbery and instant statuing. I think, by that, he means that the former is against the person's will and the latter is not self-hypnosis.

First, I find both instances highly questionable and doubt the validity of either as presented by those claiming those things are true. Second, while I can see the possibility of those things in theory, I can also see how they would agree with the "not against the will" and "all hypnosis is self-hypnosis" concepts. That's because my definitions of what is meant by those things may be different than those of others here.
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Actually Bobser I was looking for a bright yellow capri with chrome wheels and a nodding bulldog fur dashboard?

Not too rusty...
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Dmkraig,
I'm entirely comfortable with everything you say. However, what if the main reason why we are all a-seholes is because we continually fail to recognise that we are constantly dealing wih a higher breed of animal? By that I simply mean that they (human-beings) are not, never were and never will be the same. So for each and every one of them it's different, or at least within their 'groups' it is different and no one has truly done any academic study on that at this point in time.
THIS is the reason why we constantly argue. No one is stupid. No one is lying. We are simply talking about different groups who might even be differently motivated by the angle of the moon which moves the water in their brain at any given time.
This makes perfect sense to me. However, I have always considered myself to be a tad more aware than the rest of the pack. Especially in here.
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