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Leeo
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Hi All,
Apologies if this question has been asked before.
I received a deck of Rider-Waite Tarot Cards for Christmas. I was wondering which is the best source book to learn from? I am not too bothered whether it is a shut-eye book or not. I beleieve the Tarot Readers Notebook is good, but also 78 Degrees of Wisdom by Rachel Pollack. I have Learn the Tarot in 7 Days by Joe Riding, which I haven't yet read, but am unsure whether this will provide in-depth information.
Any advice or guidance greatly appreciated.
Best regards,
Leeo
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Hi Leeo,

yes Ron Martins Tarot book is one of the best, but its about how to be a reader, try Sasha Fentons Fortune telling by Tarot in most good bookshops, and Mark Edwards Silentium, these two are among the best sources for understanding the Tarot.....

Hope that helps,

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Yes the books of sasha fenton are good she has 3 boos in tarot the first is mentioned in the superior post the other two's are super tarot and tarot in action! and are only like 5 euros each one.
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I do believe that Ron Martin recommends anything written by Sasha, that's what steered me towards her work...


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Leeo
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That's great. Thanks for the advice. Sasha Fenton it is!
Best,
Leeo
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If you are really interested in Tarot, here is a good resource...

http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/
mota
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http://www.learntarot.com/

A very good free course. It is also available in book form through the standard outlets.
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Do learn the Joe Riding course, it isn´t strictly accurate as far as meanings are concerned BUT it´s a great hook to hang your further learning on.

And the Sasha Fenton books are excellent.
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I'd offer:

1) Stay away from the 'Golden Dawn' 'Builders of the Adytum' (sp) and all such older mystical approaches. With all the monumental mystical meanings and references in these older books, you might as well cold read.

2) Any book will do...go to the bookstore, B&N or whoever....spend 30 minutes thumbing thru all the how-to books on the Tarot. Buy the ONE book whose various card meanings you understand the best, or that make most sense to you. Study that one.

3) It's less a matter of memorizing the meanings quickly as it is a matter of understanding what the card means. Use whatever images, links, etc, youj wish to make the memory tag that links the card's picture to its meaning.

After you can pretty much tell what they all can mean, the next step is doing the layouts. Shuffle up and Lay out a hand of Tarot cards, say 10. Lay these out in some specific layout pattern you want to use, and see if you can interpret the hypothetical reading. Now use the same cards in different position in that layout to see what they could mean elsewhere.

After you are comfortable at that, use the same cards in the same order in different layouts to see how THAT changes things.

Then go read someone.

the thing is this: Your only job is to be able to understand the cards and the layouts, after that, the Tarot will teach YOU how to read them.

Have fun, but don't get bogged down or too distracted by them.
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Oh: And the purpose of them is to get the 'symbols' inside your brain. After you've got them all down, you don't need the cards anymore if you don't want to use them...just let the images pop into your brain for your readings.
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I suppose the BEST first source would be the booklet which came with the Rider Waites. that's where you basically understand the whole deck first...
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Best thing - choose ONE system - and stick to it.
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There seem to be very few contradictions comparatively with different systems. The many old and new cultural lenses do not substantially distort the universality of the motifs nor do folks' interpretations differ that greatly (depending upon the scholarship of the authors or experience of the readers). Mr. Jorgenson's advice is very sound.
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On 2006-01-11 02:40, Joe Xavier wrote:
I suppose the BEST first source would be the booklet which came with the Rider Waites. that's where you basically understand the whole deck first...


Indeed, and you end up with 30 different and conflicting meanings for each an every card. An exaggeration I know, but not that big of a one.

The advantage of something like Joe Riding´s system is that it puts things into an orderly fashion and makes it pretty ***ed easy to remember basic meanings for the cards. I personally think that is an important first step towards what can appear a pretty daunting task.

Hobrins "Tales from the Tarot" is a pretty decent book with a story tied in with all the card images and is worth checking out.

Finally, an idea which I hope nobody reads. Study each card and discover what it means for you. That way, no matter what schooling anyone has in terms of the tarot, you can never, ever be wrong because your meanings are YOUR meanings.
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Yes, it takes time to let the pictures haunt you.
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The LWB (little white book) that comes with most Tarot decks is worse than useless. Most Tarot readers I know throw it away...it'll just confuse you.
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"The Complete Guide to the Tarot" by Eden Gray is a very good book for people new to the Tarot and can serve as a valuable guide for more experienced readers too.

It uses the Rider-Waite deck so that may be an advantage to Leeo. It's in mass market paperback with a price tag around $10 or less.

You might want to look at "Mastering the Tarot" by the same author as well.
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Leeo:

At least you have a good start and have a set of the most important and popular Tarot card set. As you might know, the Rider-Waite Tarot cards are the most popular Tarot cards with the Aleister Crowley Thoth Tarot cards being the next most popular set.

Richard Webster is a good open-eye author and he has a book of divination using ordinary playing cards called: Playing Card Divination for Beginners. I don't know if he has written anything using Tarot cards but I would suggest try to find a book written by an open-eye author about the Tarot and try avoid all shut-eye books as much as possible because they will do nothing but confuse you and lead you astray from your path.
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I keep hearing a lot of good things about the Tarot Reader's Notebook by Ron Martin as mentioned in your post. This book has been highly recommend when ever Tarot books are mentioned.
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Ron Martin's Tarot Readers' Notebook actually talks mostly about the process of doing readings...there is some discussion of layouts and a few other things but you will not be able to learn tarot entirely from this book alone...there is little, if any, discussion of individual cards.

Also, Gerard1973 mentions above..."I would suggest try to find a book written by an open-eye author about the Tarot and try avoid all shut-eye books as much as possible because they will do nothing but confuse you and lead you astray from your path."

I must very gently but very firmly disagree with this...I don't mean to insult others, but most magic materials on readings make it much harder to learn to actually do readings. This has been discussed extensively elsewhere so let me summarize...

Just learn Tarot (throw away the LWB and use the link above I gave, it is free and good) and do some readings. After you already can do some readings then Ron Martin's book and others can add some nice touches...but learn to actually do it first...you will save yourself much frustration trying to make these magicians "cold reading" and "psychological ploys" to produce good readings for you.

Just learn to lay out the cards and read them from a shut-eye source...ignore the tricks of magic, they sell books to those who fantasize, but with a few exceptions aren't written by full time readers. Remember, the famous Herb Dewey made his living making dentures, not doing readings. I remember one of Herb's lines was, "you tend to get cavities in the back lower teeth"...never used it and doubt anyone with two connecting neurons ever will.

Still, I have got good stuff from Herb Dewey, Ron Martin, and others...however, my development as a reader was hampered with magician thinking. When I would read stuff like, "...with your cold reading skills you will be better than those doing readings for twenty years" I believed it...it isn't true. Most also mention in their magic ads how they could make a fortune using these skills if they just weren't so ethical.

Right...to me, that is a red flag.

I'm rambling, but you get the point...I'll listen to magicians on magic and mentalism, but one on one readings is a different story.

Skip the books that offer you cold readings and psychological tricks initially...you don't need them and most of the time faking it is harder and gives far worse readings than just learning a system and doing it.
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