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Tony Iacoviello
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I hear you brother and shared your path.

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On 2006-01-31 12:37, bartlewizard wrote:

May I ask what your credentials are Truth Seeker, since you seem so keen on denouncing others?

Bart, pretty much why I asked the questions of you. Looking back over your previous posts exposes a certain bitterness towards those who are clearly more talented and professional than yourself. It does make one wonder of your motives.

Such negativity..... still if it makes you feel better!

The Truth Seeker

p.s As for denouncing others, there you have me wrong, I may not like certain 'works' but at least I have a little respect for those out there 'doing it' not to attempt to rubbish them on a public forum.
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It would be great if we could stick to the subject of cold reading (I'm not directing this at any one person, by the way).

Thanks,

Jim
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It would indeed jimtron, and in that spirit I have taken my discussion with Truth Seeker to PM.
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Wow, thank you all for these suggestions
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Hi, Mota
Yousaid it all 'on the back of a post card'
Great post
Great advice
LOL
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If I could do it all again, I would read more pulp psychology books, and fewer cold reading books!

Specifically, I would memorise key points from:

"Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus" by John Gray.
"Passages" by Gail Sheehy.
"New Passages" by Gail Sheehy.

Studying these three books will allow you to give really accurate readings by simply knowing someones sex and approximate age.
"Here's to our wives and girlfriends...may they never meet!" - Groucho Marx
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The third thing I wish I knew about is how to really experience any person as a unique individual. That I think is a clue to be able to better pick up on what people don't say. And, yes, 7thSon, knowledge of gender and developmental psychology are very important. You will certainly encounter many who have read or have heard of the popular authors you mention. There is a Jungian door and framework as well that grows richer and more viable the older I become.
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The Dance is being reprinted in paperback and is currently on its way to the bindery. It will be available for pre-sale on December 5 through your favorite dealer (or directly through me). I hope to have it ship within 2 weeks.

Brad
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Richard Webster's books, yes, very informative work.

Also Jim Callahan's "Intelligent Redesign", though I don't own this particular Jim Callahan product, I've heard phenomenal things about it and I can vouch for his other superior work which I do own and use.

And just for fun, my own "The Fortune Teller" - (memorization required).
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I'm sorry, I neglected to mention my very simple "Astragalomancy" and "Cartomancy Overnight" eBooks which are a great source for those getting started.

At least my mass of followers agree.
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The Dance to be reprinted? This is welcome news, my thanks to Brad Henderson, I WILL be a customer.
AND many thanks to Alexandre, for The Fortune Teller, recommended for a no-nonsense and practicle (oops-thats practical-Sanctum again-) initial step.
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I wish I'd read Knepper's "Completely Cold" as well as the late Joe Riding's "Advanced Cold Reading" when I started learning.

I tend to think of Ian Rowland's book as being like a library of subroutines you can use in different situations once you have the basics under your belt. Plus he's a nice bloke. Gave me a replacement for my knackered old copy at Tabula Mentis, and signed both. Nice!
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Hi guys & gals,

What we're all forgetting is it's "horses for courses"!!!

We all need to learn in different ways and teachers teach in their own style!

So it's either up to us to find the right teacher, or the teacher to find the right student, or better still the teacher to teach in many different styles!

That's why I like Kenton Knepper's 'Completely Cold' because it boils cold reading down to some very basic principles...doubt (though don't know) that it'd work on its own and strongly believe that you'd need more techniques!

I also like Knepper's 'Wonder Readings', because it starts off with things that even complete dunces (who don't like having to memorise a script and don't like having to rely upon my virtually non-exsistant intuition/improvisation skills) like me could do, to much more advanced techniques that we can incorporate once we've got the basics 'down pat'

I also like Ian Rowlands 'Full Facts About Cold Reading' because it gives you all the tecniques under the sun; but, it requires some serious memorisation and it doesn't take you by the hand and show you how to go from beginner to expert!

The other systems I like, actually teach you how to read palms, which I feel are essential, unless you want to look like a dunce, in front of the client who's 'boned up' on palm reading, and they're as follows...

Bev's Speed Learn Palm Readings Plus Palm Tick Sheet COMBO
http://payloadz.com/go/jump?id=249341&merch_id=&aff_id=17144

&

Alan Strydom's Palmistry Quickies
Alan Strydom's Simple Esp Card Reading System
(which you'll find somewhere in the magic Café...it's where I got it from)

The one system that I didn't get on with was Richard Webster's (sorry Mr Webster)!

So you see, "horses for courses"!

Warm regards,

Martin King
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I have used Ians book very effectively as a starting point, one point made here was the book would not be very usefull if someone was working as a real psycic, surely a real psycic wouldn't need to use a cold reading tecnique, I worked for many years as a childrens entertainer here in south Wales under the name Stuart J, after the show I would talk to the parents and use cold readings to give them insights into their lifestyles, its amazing how much you can pick up from the venue etc, this helped get a lot of repeat bookings, back to cold reading Ian Rowlands book is a great start, but there are many others out there, it's what suits you best
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I have been cold reading now for 48 years and am court astrologer for the Queen. I am also taller than anyone here - so here is my advice.
(this works with Tarot, Tea-Leaves, Runes, Flys on the wall etc).
Look them in the eye - but 3 inches behind and say.....
'What do you think this looks like.....' Take it from there...
'Are we here?'
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On 2007-12-23 06:10, martin king wrote:
Whoops, I posted twice, sorry guys

We all need to learn in different ways so reading it twice helped me. Thanks! Smile

J
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I would stick with the Sim Stone Manual! Smile
Special collectors edition due to be relesaed in 2008 (170 sets)
Bri
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On 2007-12-23 10:23, mindyourmagic wrote:
I would stick with the Sim Stone Manual! Smile
Special collectors edition due to be relesaed in 2008 (170 sets)
Bri

Never heard of it.

Is this something you are putting together? If so, can you provide a description?

Tony
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