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Jeb Sherrill
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I haven’t seen anyone talking about card productions, so I thought I’d start a thread.

What are your favourite moves and routines? Do you like single productions, or do you produce fans too? What do you guys do?



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Single productions, split fans, anything that makes the hands
bleed......Ummmmm ......PAIN........ Smile
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The single and split fan productions are great, but I try not to focus on these classic techniques. Perfect production, snap & interlock are funny and effective too.
I also like the one Jeff did on his WGM card act: shooting the cards from one hand to the other simultaneously and catching them.
I tried some variations on this, like above your head (needs a few more years of practice, though).

One more thing: Remember, there’s only one front hand split fan technique (by Bobby Baxter). It has numerous disadvantages, so last year I came up with a completely new technique with the following benefits. You can open your fingers between the productions, you always grab the cards in the same manner (i.e. back of the hand pointing sideways, not downward) and it’s extremely quick and clean. That’s my current favorite.

Anyone ever come up with his own technique? What about sharing these (via email)?


Yours in better magic,


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Christof,

Interesting technique. It sounds like a tin-ki (sp?) split fan I came up with. I'd love to gab about this stuff via email. Drop me a note anytime.



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Right.
I have just started getting into this stuff and absolutely ADORE it.
I got the McBride trilogy about a week ago and I haven't stopped practicing since I got it.

But I need some help.
I need to know where I can find good manipulator's cards.
McBride mentions that his favourite brand is the Crusador brand.
He also mentions 'B' brand decks and steamboat decks being very good for manipulation.
(All I have at the minute are Bikes, which are hopeless for back palming)

I also need a decent card clip and some clips for body loading (which Hank Lee sells at $4 a pop, they must be cheaper somewhere else...?)

Any info people can give me on this would be greatly appreciated.

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Bee backs can usually be bought at grocery stores, but if you can't find them there, or on the net, there's an advertisement for buying them in bulk in most magic magazines. It's that little black and white advertisement that sells rider backs and a few other cards as well. If you want actual manipulation cards, go to Daytona magic on the net. I just got some Murphy's and they're great. Daytona sells Murphy, Chen, Nielson and both Marvey decks (the best selection and price I've seen). The Marvey decks are very cool too in some ways, but all around I prefer Murphy's.

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Get Peter Marvy's manipulation cards, they are the best I have ever seen - he makes 2 brands a thin set of cards and the extra thin cards - the extra thin one's are about 1/3 the size of a normal deck of cards. The cards have flesh coloured edges so allowances can be made if you can't keep your fingers closed, the rest of the back of the cards are covered in a cool kinda dark colour that enables you to do open hand card productions, Peter Marvy is the master at open hand card productions.
The dealer ad's say the thin ones are good for single card productions and the extra thin ones are best for fan productions - but I've found the extra thin ones are excellent for both.
The only problem I have with them is that the pips are not on all four corners, unlike some of the other brands of Manip cards. Four corner pips enable you to do left hand fan productions as well as right hand without too much practice.

Good Luck!!
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Sorry to disagree with the last message on Marvey's cards, but they are all rubbish. You won't even see him use them! Smile

Use normal plastic coated cards and work them in and put fanning powder on, for bare hands, try beige, brown or black edged cards, can't be seen. but then you already know that! Smile
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I love the Marvey cards. You must handle them very gently as they're extremely thin, but the fact that you can pack so many in makes them well worth it. The Murphy's work best for me all around though. They aren't quite as thin, but I also don't have to be quite as ginger with them.

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That's a great help.
Thanks to everyone.
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I just use Bee brand. Well-broken-in, and I don't bother powdering for production work. For any kind of fan flourishing it might be nice, but not mandatory. For a full routine I use about two decks worth of cards that I just carry out as one jumbo stack.
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Hey Gonz, go back through your tapes & see what Jeff suggests to use for clips. As I recall they are a type of paper clip(Ideal?)


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I have a very simple routine I do right now where I do several split fans, followed by some single productions, (occasionally I'll throw in a pivot) and I finish it by pulling them out of my mouth. I'm trying to jazz this up a little more, with some snap productions and maybe some front hand splits (once I learn them). The move I want to learn most is card spinning. This kid showed me how to do it, and I had it going really good for about 5 minutes, but the next day it suddenly stopped working. The cards refuse to obey me! I say "spin!" and they just fall to the floor. Smile
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Ich,
Yes, you use those weird little clips that hold papers together. They don't look like regular paper clips though. They're big and shaped kind of like a big V, but not, but kind of sort of. You know what I mean. Smile

Geoff,
What kind of card spinning?

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Card spinning where you hold a pack like your almost ready to fan it, but you flick the card in 'c' with your thumb and it shoots up and out in a spin. I've gotten a little better at it since I posted that, its definitely a knack.. I just haven't mastered it.
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Perfect production and snap poductions are my favorties.. I do split fans and single backpalms too.

I have Marvey's cards but the single production kind...I should get the extra thin as well.

The clips Jeff McBride was talkin bout were somethin like ack #2 clips or something. I'll visit Office Depot and find out.
I like cards.
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wikiro-look in McBride's Volume 3 for more on Card spinning.

Christof- I'm very interested in the WGM McBride Flick move you were talking about. I tried to figure it out, but had no success. I don't have any personal productions persay, but would still love to chat with you via email. haasman04@yahoo.com

Also, does anyone know the knack of bouncing card????? McBride ended that way, and it blew me away. I tried it out, but stopped after creasing 5 corners of cards. hehehe. Email me if you want to discuss.

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Any other fans here of Marco Tendo's (?) rolling card production? I'm nowhere near expert at it, not really being a card manipulator, but it's fun to practice and satisfying when it works.
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