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mcatalani
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"I tried it myself and am sorry to say I either did not do something right or don't really know how to apply the wax correctly"

I found a description of waxing a card on Daryls encyclopedia of cards sleights vol 4. It does seem like quite a bit of work to get it right, as you have to buff the cad really well to get it slick.

Wax on...wax off.......

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Thank You Mr. Miyagisan, I will take a look at the Daryl info.
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Zauber,
Yes I have played with both methods as well. Use them both, but don't use either too much.

Also to apply wax to a deck get a tea light candle (little round). Make sure the deck has been broken in (with a ruler) Rub the candle all over the face and back of each card.
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Ron Reid
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I have not heard anybody mention this, but it's really a must for card manipulators. Always keep your cards in card clamps when not using them. You'll be amazed at how much better they fan and how much longer they last.

If you're not familiar with them, card clamps are just like a vice that tightly clamps the card deck(s) together. You can buy them from Norm Nielson or you can make your own. I understand Jeff McBride recommends Nielson's clamps on one his videos.

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I just got the McBride DVD's! They are great and I reccomend them to anybody who wants them.
white hats rule.
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Just a note about the use of wax - this is only used on decorative fanning decks, not on the cards that you intend to do split fans and other productions with. In a fanning routine the wax creates a smooth fan and also provides stability to the cards, which may otherwise have a tendency to slip. Although it would be possible to do split fans and single productions with waxed cards, the wax in this instance will prove to be a hinderance rather than a help. In reference to the preparation of cards for manipulation, I use the other Ganson method, i.e. the method where you score the backs of each card with a razorblade (use red Bee cards and score along the diagonal lines). This is a very tedious task but once done, you have a very "soft" deck and there is no need for a card clamp.
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I use red Hoyle Diamond Back Professional Gambling Cards for split fan and other card manipulation. I use no fanning powder. If you have to use it, use it sparingly. Bikes are a bit too slippery. I used to use Steamboat and Streamline Cards which are not available anymore.

To get back to Jeb's original question, I list the following routine which I last performed on stage in an auditorium recently:

1.Cane and top hat to table
2.Deck rises from cardcase
3. 4 color changes using 4 methods plus a fancy one handed cut
4. Springing card flourishes and arm spread with toss and catch
5. Spin cards from deck with catch in deck and two cards spin out at once with catch in each hand. Spin one or two cards into audience.
6. Cardini Singles
7. Fan productions: LePaul Instantaneous Palm Flourish, my own Left Pivot Palm steal and fan from fan production, LePaul Card Fan Fourish
8. Perfect Palm Singles Production followed by fan
9. Split fans, acquitment, fingertip production from front palm
10. Fan Vanish and Production
11. Simultaneous Right Splits and Right Cardini singles with left Snap Production
12. left hand spin cards into hat (my own "short distance spinner"), more singles and final fan production.
13. Hat brought out to edge of stage and held high in the air while card fountain sprays cards into audience.

I have evolved this routine over many years and and it runs less than 4 minutes. I frequently practice this as a daily workout to keep my hands conditioned. By the way I use both the Marlo method of split fans as well as occasionally the Ganson method just to mix things up a bit.
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Larry,

I have a question about aquitments and steals. This may not be the appropriate place to discuss. Any suggestions or help would be appreciated.

David
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David,
Check for a private message from me discussing those matters.
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I'm getting better and better with my split fan production using currency. Will wax work better than fanning powder on currency?
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CAN SOMEBODY PLZ TELL ME?
plz tell me how to properly prepare BEE decks??
I roll and break them then powder them..but alas, it didn't work well.
i`m using my bee deck for the purpose of fanning, palming and back palming. it fan badly.
- a f o i -
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Afoi,

Tell me your procedure of breaking in and preparing your cards. Also, where did you get your Bees, are they US Playing Card?
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On 2006-07-09 22:38, Darkwing wrote:
Afoi,

Tell me your procedure of breaking in and preparing your cards. Also, where did you get your Bees, are they US Playing Card?


Do as all of us do, purchase the Jeff McBride card videos or Lewis Ganson's Book on preparing cards. You can buy the DVD from http://www.llpub.com or Jeff McBride's web site.
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Bill Hegbli
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On 2006-07-08 22:57, afoi wrote:
CAN SOMEBODY PLZ TELL ME?
plz tell me how to properly prepare BEE decks??
I roll and break them then powder them..but alas, it didn't work well.
i`m using my bee deck for the purpose of fanning, palming and back palming. it fan badly.


For Fanning you do not break in the cards. Just riffle shuffle them and have them well powdered. For split fans, this is where you need the flexability in the cards. After breaking them in put them in a clamp and cold press them for several days. Riffle shuffle them. Then they should work okay. They will be very thick and look bad up close but from a distance they should look okay.

This is why the thin Neilsen cards are so good. I like the unpowdered ones he sells as they seem to me to be more sturdy and last longer. No breaking in needed, just shuffle - powder and go!

Great convenience for $5.
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I just posted a few short videos of my card production routines.
I will leave the up for a couple of weeks. Love to get input!
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On 2002-10-27 13:05, Kendrix wrote:
Has anyone tried using parafin instead of zinc stearate? Shimada mentions it on one of his tapes.


Mahka Tendo from Japan uses the parafin wax. It is shaped like a roll of dimes and he just rubs it across each card a few times. He gave me a stick of it at TAOM last year but I have not tried it yet. I think it just depends on the moisture in ones hands. My bottle of fanning powder should last me the rest of my life.
Geoff Weber
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Thanks for sharing those videos Dennis... Which one is most representative of your manipulation routine in its current incarnation?
Mr.Dennis
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Good question Geoff.
The dove and yo yo act video was taped in my basement last month around 1:00 in the morning. It's hard to work the act for an empty basement. That act was only 6.5 minutes taken down from 11 minutes last year. I am going to tape a 45 minute promo video Oct 9th. I plan to add 2-3 minutes back into the dove act. Also I will update the music for more energy. I really think that video looks dead.
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I really think the front half of that video is much better than the second half... The part with the yo-yo and doves flows beautifully. The card manipulation sequence doesn't work as well... If you are interested in any more in depth critique, I'll be happy to oblige (although I'd probably prefer to do it in private messages or emails)
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