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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
Would appreciate some info on close-up mats ...
How many types of close-up mats are currently sold today? What I mean is the different manufacturers making them - may I have the names of these makers? In what order would you rank them - in terms of quality? |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
That's a tall order. There are dozens.
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Mad Jake Inner circle All the voices in my head helped me make 2200 Posts |
Two of the best mats out there are the Apollo, which used to be made by or distributed by Sterling Magic, I think MAK Magic is the distributor now. The other mat, which I use the most is Dean Dills.
The less expensive mats have a think foam back, the quality mats like Apollo and Dean's have a thick Foam Rubber backing which keeps the pad in place when performing. Both the Apollo and the Dean Dill mats are easily cleaned with some light duty laundry detergent and a warm cloth. I've been using my Apollo mats for about 8 years now and it still has a lot of life left in it. The Apollo mats come in various sizes, ranging from a round spotlight pad to an Xlarge card workers surface. I believe the Dean Dill mat is available in one size only. You can check them out at the Trickery http://www.thetrickery.com/?nd=full&key=5444 http://www.thetrickery.com/?nd=full&key=6465 Jake
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Mobius303 Inner circle Lakewood, Ohio 1309 Posts |
Ronjo makes the Apolo or Zeus ...i forget right now but they are tops and can be cleaned in the Washing machine.
The gibson pads are nice as well and a little bit larger than the Apollo and Zeus pads. Gibson brand pads will not hold up to the washer though...they shrink or something. Water will ruin the gibson pad. I would stay away from the cheapy foam pads....they do not wear well with regular use. They tend to fall appart after a short time. You could always make your own pads...a little felt or Velvet and a piece of wood with either a cotton or foam core is easy enough to put together. I have also seen Eugene Burger use a piece of carpet as a close-up pad and it worked very well. He said he just went to a carpet store and asked for samples ...they gave him samples for free. Hope that helps out, Mobius |
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Dave V Inner circle Las Vegas, NV 4824 Posts |
That's pretty much what I do. Home Depot has a thick rubber mat used to line wire shelves so small items don't fall through. It works beautifully as a pad under a fabric cover. My fabric is green poker table cloth bought from http://www.gamblersgeneralstore.com
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Kelvin W Sherlock New user 73 Posts |
The Trevor Duffy Magic Mats have a rubber backing as well.
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Douglas.M Elite user 465 Posts |
Hi James,
If you don't want to make your own, and Dean's pads are beyond your spending limit, then do check out the different "performance pads" from Ronjo (six different styles): http://www.ronjo.com/thestore/mts.html I believe all but the silk model have the rubber backing. John Cornelius makes a portable, folding close up "shuffle mat" that looks like a large checkbook until you unfold it. You can get at Denny's magic: http://www.dennymagic.com/cgi-bin/hazel.......m=005032 As Kevin Sherlock mentioned, Trevor Duffy's durable mats are also nice: http://www.magicdojo.com/index.php/actio......icelist/ Hank Lee stocks the Gibson line. Dean Dills pads though, are things of functional beauty: http://deandill.com/pads.html It depends on what is important to you: size, portability, durability, price, quality, and/or special features. Douglas M. |
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walking_liberty Elite user 458 Posts |
I have Dean Dill's production pad and it's awesome. You can check 'em out here
http://www.deandill.com/pads.html |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
The ones I generally use are some I make myself. The local fabric store carries automobile headliner material. I use a straightedge, a carpenter's square and rotary cutter to make them.
They are very inexensive, and they have the advantage of losing wrinkles quickly. The surface is fuzzy but it doesn't have a nap. It has a soft foam backing about 1/4 inch thick. If you wish, you can glue this to a piece of board for something more permanent. You can also use this as a base for a velvet pad. Be careful of velvet, though. Some of Daniel Garcia's coin work can be hampered by the grain of the velvet, if you do any of his stuff.
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Sam Tabar Inner circle Austin, Texas 1050 Posts |
Here are some thread that might help you, James.
The most beautiful Close Up Pad High Quality Closeup Pads
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
Thanks, Bill, Sam, Douglas M, Kelvin W Sherlock, Dave VanVranken, Mobius, Jake, and walking_liberty for all your tips.
The reason I am asking is I have tried many close-up pads (I may not have tried really good ones yet) but due to the humidity of the climate in my country, many of them do not last. I am thinking of buying really durable ones - let's say if price is not the problem, what would you guys suggest? Thanks again in advance for more tips. James Tong |
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doublelift Veteran user 342 Posts |
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On 2006-02-03 03:43, Bill Palmer wrote: Whooo hooo, great minds think alike. I picked up a leftover piece of the headliner material for free at a local trim shop. Bill is right it is hard to beat cheap but even harder when its free! |
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Mobius303 Inner circle Lakewood, Ohio 1309 Posts |
Wow if price was no object then I would order one of these:
http://www.questx.com/tables/products.html Tabman tables and cloe-up pades are not felt they are suede. I like the drawer table as it has a place to put some props. Later, Mobius |
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Sam Tabar Inner circle Austin, Texas 1050 Posts |
For me I'd go with Dean Dill's pads. They're durable and beautiful. Tabman's tables are a thing of beauty too. Rannie, a Café member from the Philippines uses Pattrick Przysiecki's mats which can be bought directly from Pattrick or at Magic Mirror. I'm pretty much sure the climate in the Philippines isn't that much different from Malaysia.
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Mad Jake Inner circle All the voices in my head helped me make 2200 Posts |
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On 2006-02-04 22:41, Pete Biro wrote: 4,540 if you count the little throw rug mats you can get at Hancocks and Michaels, great for the Indian cups and balls.
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
Thanks everyone, I really appreciate the valuable info and tips.
I'll go for the Dean Dill's Pads since it is the unanimous consensus that it it the top of the line. It would also be a real test to see how it would withstand the humidity of the Malaysian climate. BTW I can't find a link to Pattrick Przysiecki's close-up pad page, his site only highlights his professional performnce services. |
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Sam Tabar Inner circle Austin, Texas 1050 Posts |
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On 2006-02-06 15:56, JamesTong wrote: Try sending Pattrick an e-mail. Or if you want you can go to Magic Mirror. The pads they sell are the ones that Pattrick makes.
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JamesTong Eternal Order Malaysia 11213 Posts |
Thanks, Sam, really appreciate the info.
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Sam Tabar Inner circle Austin, Texas 1050 Posts |
You're very much welcome, James.
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