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Profile of danielhunley
I am really not sure which to buy, cuz they sound like the same thing. Also what coins are recommended to be used and where are some good websites I can buy them?
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Just buy the deluxe Raven kit and it comes with plenty of extras! And it comes with the video! Penguin Magic has it for $49. Smile
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I know both illusions and would recommend the Raven. I believe it is the more impressive of the two. Smile
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IMO, I would save up and buy the Pro PK kit. At penguinmagic it is $80. While that sounds like a lot, you'll be able to do everything the Raven and Bat can do and more. Think about it, read the info on it and compare them. It's worth that extra money.

If you want to buy some extra coins, try If you buy the Pro PK kit, you can also buy the x-flip coin, which would lift and flip in a spectator's hand.
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Penguinmagic also sells the X-Flip, AND for 5 bucks less then Ellusionist, AND free shipping. Just FYI...
On the other hand, you have different fingers.
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