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Ninian
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Hello everyone,

Apologies if posts on this have appeared a lot in the past but the search button seems to have dissapeared so I can't trawl the archives (what's up with that?)

I've been performing Paul Harris' Reset for many years now and it's one of my favourites. In the way that people get strangely emotionally attached to certain trick versions I've never really strayed from the PH version. However, I just watched a movie clip of Ricochet! by Paul Wilson and I loved it. Especially the twist at the end - that took me by complete suprise. Really elegent, really strong.

But! Looking at it on magic shops I noticed the mention of gaffed cards. In recent years I've really gone off carrying around anything more than a deck of cards. Sneaking gaffs in and out of decks during routines just doesn't appeal to me. So, before I buy it, I was wondering if someone who owns this could exapnd a bit on how gaffed we're talking here!
Can the gaffs sit in a normal deck for other routines?
Can the audience hold/inspect the cards?

When I perform reset with normal cards the audience often grab the cards at the end to try and explain it as being trick cards - can they grab these cards at end and find nothing?

Like I said, I usually avoid gaffs but I just loved how clean this presentation was and the end is stunning.

Thanks in advance
Ninian
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ALthoygh I know you don't have the 50 posts required to get into the banquet room, posts of this nature should not really be in the public section of this forum IMO.
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This is a great trick! The cards are gaffed. However, you do end clean at the end. To learn how, you'd have to buy Ricochet! to find out..
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Al Cohen performed this for myself and another magician a few years back at Al's Magic shop. The trick is very commercial and you do end clean. There is a demo of the effect on Lee Asher's website.

As far as packet tricks go, this is one of the best ones out there. It may even change your mind about using gaffs.
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I'm not really one to use gaffs myself, but Paul Wilson doesn't put his name on just anything. I've yet to see anything from him that I don't like, gaffed or not.
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I got it straight from Asher. It is a pretty nice trick.
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I bought this effect when it first came out and, to be honest, was not all that impressed. But all the pros were raving about it so I got it in order to give it a try. The first person I performed it for figured out the gaff involved (although they weren't able to figure out the Asher Twist part). To each their own I suppose... I prefer my variation of Harris' original.
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On 2006-02-24 06:31, Ninian wrote:
Hello everyone,

Apologies if posts on this have appeared a lot in the past but the search button seems to have dissapeared so I can't trawl the archives (what's up with that?)

I've been performing Paul Harris' Reset for many years now and it's one of my favourites. In the way that people get strangely emotionally attached to certain trick versions I've never really strayed from the PH version. However, I just watched a movie clip of Ricochet! by Paul Wilson and I loved it. Especially the twist at the end - that took me by complete suprise. Really elegent, really strong.

BUT! Looking at it on magic shops I noticed the mention of gaffed cards. In recent years I've really gone off carrying around anything more than a deck of cards. Sneaking gaffs in and out of decks during routines just doesn't appeal to me. So, before I buy it, I was wondering if someone who owns this could exapnd a bit on how gaffed we're talking here!
Can the gaffs sit in a normal deck for other routines?
Can the audience hold/inspect the cards?

When I perform reset with normal cards the audience often grab the cards at the end to try and explain it as being trick cards - can they grab these cards at end and find nothing?

Like I said, I usually avoid gaffs but I just loved how clean this presentation was and the end is stunning.

Thanks in advance
Ninian





I don't care for carrying around a lot of gaffed cards either, but I do make an exception with a few routines such as Richochet and Ultimate Three Card Monte. Cleaning up Richochet is relatively easy to do (without drawing suspicion) and then you're left with a regular deck. I've been doing Richochet for years and it's been one of my favorite effects. Having the four special cards in my business card holder allows me to ring the cards into and out of play with no fuss.

If you go to Lee Asher's site you'll see that Lee now has an updated DVD of his twist, and there's a combo deal for Richochet and the DVD, so now would be a great time to add this to your repetoire. http://www.leeasher.com While at his site you can see both the Asher Twist and Ricochet performed (for the latter go to the "Watch Videos" section and scroll down). Good Luck!
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The video flashed a bit exposing the gaffs.
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On a side note for this, how are the angles on the Asher Twist?
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I think I learned to lower or tilt the top portion of the cards, facing the spec, downward a little to avoid fl******.
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Thanks everyone for the info.
I've ordered it now!
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On 2006-02-25 09:44, kid iowa wrote:
On a side note for this, how are the angles on the Asher Twist?


Not great, but not horrible. Not quite as sensitive as, say, the snap change. But enough of an issue so that you can't do it in a lot of situations, and enough of an issue so that some guys just don't do it. But it's a nice move and worth learning.
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Hey guys,
The angles on the Twist are just fine. The Twist will work for audiences of any size as long as they can see the cards. And as for the noise, I never knew the it made any.

This should answer all your questions:

http://www.leeasher.com/asher_twist.htm

I hope that helps.
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Ricochet and Reset are both awesome and I do them both and they both get great reaction. I like to have both in my repetiore because they are used best in different situations. Ricochet is more of a fast paced effect, and reset is more of a formal piece or table piece depending on which version you do.

Ricochet is alittle more visual, yet has gaffs. Reset, is fun to watch and awesome, yet the are many many more moves(counts, shifts, breaks).
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On 2006-02-24 09:05, glatner wrote:
ALthoygh I know you don't have the 50 posts required to get into the banquet room, posts of this nature should not really be in the public section of this forum IMO.


I disagree. To me the question is OK.
The cards cannot really be inspected and normally they cannot be put in an ordinary deck. If you have the trick, you will know what I mean.
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Okay, first of all...
There are two methods of doing this effect. The first is very direct and uses the asher twist. The asher twist is an awesome effect, but the angles are horrendous for most people, unless you do it well...Like Lee does in the video, if you know the twist, you'd be amazed at how he can do it from that angle.

The second method is a little bit more drawn out, and would probably provide for a more fun show from a laymen's perspective... and it's self working.

The gaffs are not inspectable, and could not be left in the deck throughout other routines. There are however, two cleanup methods offered in the booklet, and I'm sure you could think of your own.
After doing the trick, usually people don't ask to see the cards until they're done looking at the normal ones, at which point you're already clean.

In short, I haven't had any problems with the gaffs, and for my money, I think it's a good trick.
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I personally don't like Ricochet, mainly because I don't like using gaffed cards at all. The first time I watched it, this was very evident. Now Slap Aces by Lee is AWESOME, as is The Asher Twist.

I'm sure those of you who purchased Ricochet will gets TONS of fun and mileage from it. Just not for me.

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