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Mogwai II Veteran user The Alpes 314 Posts |
There is an important Book missing on the List:
Strong Magic - Darwin Ortiz I am reading it right now, and its great. It gives you really important insights of magic. IMO the best book I read in a long time - and it doesn't contain a single trick! Good luck
"You'll wonder when he comes, you'll wonder more when he's gone..."
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asmayly Loyal user San Antonio, Texas 291 Posts |
" I like his style and magic, will definitely buy some of his other works ..."
No, no, no, Sam. Don't buy anymore! Learn those tricks and put a show together! A busker does maybe 5 tricks at the most! It's the acting/ playing, routining, and other bits of business that make a show. OK, I stand slightly corrected: there is a Cellini DVD or book, I can't remember exactly, that has a lot of busking one-liners to handle different difficult situations and to ask for money, etc., that would be very helpful, as well as, some tips on trick and table management. But if you hung around some buskers you would probably pick-up some good ideas. The point I'm making is that you have to cross that chasm between buying and performing. Buying is where it's safe and warm and where there is no risk. But there is also no show! No creating; no playing; no theatre; no magic; no real anything. If you want to surprise yourself and your fellow magicians, create a unique and well-routined show! (Oh, and you may want to buy John Carney's "Book of Secrets" --did I say that?!! Just kidding. It is a good book to rekindle your love of magic and to see that creating magic is a creative art form, but if you already know that, go out and do some magic! Buy what you need--trick-wise, you have enough books!) Asmayly |
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DomKabala Inner circle I've grown old after diggin' holes for 2827 Posts |
Quote: Dude, you have quite the collection. May I ask a question? How did you acquire this list and not read anything...did you buy an estate or collection of books at one time? First find out what category your magic interest lies. Close-up, parlor, stage, busking, street, etc. Take it from there. To learn to be a pro though, you need to get some books on psychology, theory, and presentation of magic. Look in Giobbi's CC vol. 2 to start with. There is some very good info discussed on that and he gives a list of other books to study as well. BTW you have enough reference to keep you busy for a lifetime!!
On 2006-02-27 06:26, Sam Griffin wrote: :bikes: <<<KRaZy4kardz>>>
We don't stop playing when we grow old...we grow old when we stop playing.
God is enough, let go, let God. Gal 2:20 "Anything of value is not easily attained and those things which are easily attained are not of lasting value." |
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Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
Darwin Ortiz has a viewpoint essay in the March issue of Genii which is apropos to this thread. His point in a nutshell is don't buy another magic book until you've read the last one you bought. Sounds like good advice.
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Sam Griffin Regular user Australia 170 Posts |
Thanks for the sound advice everyone.
I havn't too many videos though..only the McBride AOCM series and Sylvester Pitch. I'll have to start buying videos, making sure I've seen all the material to offer. This way, I'll have a bigger & better selection when it comes to putting on a show. Oh, and yeah..i'll get Strong Magic. I'll make that my last book So do you recommend I leave the video collection behind also?
"When we are on stage, we are in the here and now."
"The eye is the window of your soul." "The PERFORMER must BELIEVE in everything that takes place on the stage, only then will the AUDIENCE BELIEVE! |
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Since Sam is planning to use his material for busking, the intimate knowledge of cards found in Erdnase and Hamman is not an absolute must.
The Books of Wonder are good for someone who has a solid grounding in magic. I would go with Tarbell first. Why? I know what's in there, and I know how it will work for a busker. In fact, Tarbell 1 has enough material in it that Magical Mystical Michael was able to start his busking and renaissance festival career on that book alone. Bobo will teach you sleights you can use with anything that is small and round. The Ammar book will give you cups and balls material that is essential. But if you are going to busk, read books on busking.
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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Martino Special user Manchester, UK 928 Posts |
Sam,
I have a serious question. How can you have all those books and not know a thing about magic and haven't read ANY of them? Another point, earlier you mentioned you "printed" the Ammar book out - have you downloaded these books from some filesharing site? Whilst all the advice offered here to you is commendable and given in good will, I must say that I question your aquisition of this material. If you bought someones estate then I apologise, but in this day and age I suspect not. I would suggest deleting all the books you have from your hard drive, go out and BUY one of the books recommended for a beginner magician e.g. Mark Wilsons complete course in magic and then come back in a year or so when you've had a chance to digest it, learn it, practice it and perform it. Regards, Martino.
"There's a difference between not knowing how something is done and knowing it can't be done!" - Simon Aronson
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Sam Griffin Regular user Australia 170 Posts |
Thank you bill, yes tarbell is great. I'm onto lesson four and loving it
"When we are on stage, we are in the here and now."
"The eye is the window of your soul." "The PERFORMER must BELIEVE in everything that takes place on the stage, only then will the AUDIENCE BELIEVE! |
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magic4545 Inner circle Jimmy Fingers 1159 Posts |
Magical Mystical Michael was my hero growing up.
And I swear, that was thirty years ago, and he still looks like he hasn't aged much. What a nice guy and a great performer and creator. |
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gerard1973 Special user Michigan, U.S.A. 688 Posts |
Sam:
Wow! They're ALL good books. If I were you, I would just pick one the easier magic books; like Card College Volume 1, Now You See It Now You Don't, or The Magic Of Michael Ammar and start reading from there.
"Confusion is not magic."
Dai Vernon |
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Red Von Loyal user Branson, MO 251 Posts |
I would start with the book that intrigues you the most, then take it from there!
No amount of reading will make you a professional magician though!! You need to get out in front of an audience and apply everything you learn. The audience will determine where you stand and how far you go!! You can be as talented as Copperfield in front of a mirror, but if you can't sell yourself and convince an audience... No amount of reading will help you out there!! Bottom line... Buy, read, learn, and practice, practice, practice... Until you feel comfortable with yourself and routine to take that next step before an audience! My two cents anyway!! :cheers: |
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spycrapper Loyal user Indonesia 295 Posts |
Where can I buy The Magic of Michael Ammar, secret of Bro. John Hamman, and Art of Astonishment ebook? I don't ever know that all those books are available in e-book format
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erdnase101 New user 56 Posts |
A journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step. And that step should be opening the first page of CC1.
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magicbern Inner circle Hong Kong, China 1220 Posts |
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On 2006-03-08 08:00, Martino wrote: I just read this thread and to be frank, the first thing that caught my eye was the same statement that mrtino elaborates on in his post quoted above. Where did he get a downloadable copy of Ammar's book from? It doesn't seem possible given that only a printed copy exists. Also, this member never addresses this ethical vacuum and just continues to talk about his 'collection'. Seems fishy to me (pardon the cynical overtones). As for the original question, I took would recommend reading and assimlating Tarbell for all the essential grounding on our art (and then Ortiz' Strong Magic and the controversial but thought-provoking Absolute Magic by Derren Brown). |
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Martino Special user Manchester, UK 928 Posts |
Magicbern,
Unfortunately, a rather colourful "discussion" between Sam Griffin and myself led to a number of posts being deleted until the thread got back on track. I still have my doubts about the acquisition of the "books" but hey ho, what can you do? Regards, Martino.
"There's a difference between not knowing how something is done and knowing it can't be done!" - Simon Aronson
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magicbern Inner circle Hong Kong, China 1220 Posts |
Martino, I guess we can't do much but raise awareness among our brethren. Still it boils down to one's personal ethical threshold...its been going on since time immemorial.
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