We Remember The Magic Café We Remember
Username:
Password:
[ Lost Password ]
  [ Forgot Username ]
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Books, Pamphlets & Lecture Notes » » Books to be read, which one first..is the question! (0 Likes) Printer Friendly Version

 Go to page [Previous]  1~2
Mogwai II
View Profile
Veteran user
The Alpes
314 Posts

Profile of Mogwai II
There is an important Book missing on the List:

Strong Magic - Darwin Ortiz

I am reading it right now, and its great. It gives you really important insights of magic.
IMO the best book I read in a long time - and it doesn't contain a single trick!

Good luck
"You'll wonder when he comes, you'll wonder more when he's gone..."
asmayly
View Profile
Loyal user
San Antonio, Texas
298 Posts

Profile of asmayly
" I like his style and magic, will definitely buy some of his other works ..."

No, no, no, Sam. Don't buy anymore! Learn those tricks and put a show together!

A busker does maybe 5 tricks at the most! It's the acting/ playing, routining, and other bits of business that make a show. OK, I stand slightly corrected: there is a Cellini DVD or book, I can't remember exactly, that has a lot of busking one-liners to handle different difficult situations and to ask for money, etc., that would be very helpful, as well as, some tips on trick and table management. But if you hung around some buskers you would probably pick-up some good ideas.

The point I'm making is that you have to cross that chasm between buying and performing. Buying is where it's safe and warm and where there is no risk. But there is also no show! No creating; no playing; no theatre; no magic; no real anything.

If you want to surprise yourself and your fellow magicians, create a unique and well-routined show!

(Oh, and you may want to buy John Carney's "Book of Secrets" --did I say that?!! Just kidding. It is a good book to rekindle your love of magic and to see that creating magic is a creative art form, but if you already know that, go out and do some magic! Buy what you need--trick-wise, you have enough books!)

Asmayly
DomKabala
View Profile
Inner circle
I've grown old after diggin' holes for
2827 Posts

Profile of DomKabala
Quote:
On 2006-02-27 06:26, Sam Griffin wrote:
Hello
I have these books..

*Aaron Fisher The paper engine
*Daniel Garcia Blueprints
*Derren Brown Pure Effect
*Derren Brown Absolute Magic
*Edward Marlo Revolutionary Card Magic
*Jean Bobo Modern Coin Magic
*John Bannon Smoke and Mirrors
*Juan Tamariz Mnemonica
*Larry Becker Stunners plus
*Lee Earl M.I.N.D
*Michael Close Complete Workers E-Book
*Bill Tarr Now You See It Now You Don't
*Paul Osbourne Haunted Illusions
*Paul Harris Art Of Astonishment 1,2&3.
*Roberto Giobbi Card College 1,2,3,4&5.
*S.W.Erdnase Expert At The Card Table
*Richard Kaufman Secrets Of Brother John Hamman
*The Magic Magazine Volume 1-5
*Michael Ammar The Magic Of Michael Ammar
*Tommy Wonder The Books Of Wonder 1&2.

Which book should I read first..
Is there a clear winner..

Thankyou for your time

P.S To study these books, would give me all the information I need, to become a professional magician? Does anyone feel I have left out a must have book..

Besides Tarball, that's just too *** big to read. lol. That will be my last read.
Dude, you have quite the collection. May I ask a question? How did you acquire this list and not read anything...did you buy an estate or collection of books at one time? First find out what category your magic interest lies. Close-up, parlor, stage, busking, street, etc. Take it from there. To learn to be a pro though, you need to get some books on psychology, theory, and presentation of magic. Look in Giobbi's CC vol. 2 to start with. There is some very good info discussed on that and he gives a list of other books to study as well. BTW you have enough reference to keep you busy for a lifetime!!
:bikes: Smile Smile Smile
<<<KRaZy4kardz>>>
We don't stop playing when we grow old...we grow old when we stop playing.

God is enough, let go, let God. Gal 2:20

"Anything of value is not easily attained and those things which are easily attained are not of lasting value."



Smile Smile Smile Smile
Larry Barnowsky
View Profile
Inner circle
Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from
4866 Posts

Profile of Larry Barnowsky
Darwin Ortiz has a viewpoint essay in the March issue of Genii which is apropos to this thread. His point in a nutshell is don't buy another magic book until you've read the last one you bought. Sounds like good advice.
Sam Griffin
View Profile
Regular user
Australia
170 Posts

Profile of Sam Griffin
Thanks for the sound advice everyone.
I havn't too many videos though..only the McBride AOCM series and Sylvester Pitch.
I'll have to start buying videos, making sure I've seen all the material to offer.

This way, I'll have a bigger & better selection when it comes to putting on a show. Oh, and yeah..i'll get Strong Magic. I'll make that my last book Smile

So do you recommend I leave the video collection behind also?
"When we are on stage, we are in the here and now."
"The eye is the window of your soul."

"The PERFORMER must BELIEVE in everything that takes place on the stage, only then will the AUDIENCE BELIEVE!
Bill Palmer
View Profile
Eternal Order
Only Jonathan Townsend has more than
24280 Posts

Profile of Bill Palmer
Since Sam is planning to use his material for busking, the intimate knowledge of cards found in Erdnase and Hamman is not an absolute must.

The Books of Wonder are good for someone who has a solid grounding in magic. I would go with Tarbell first. Why? I know what's in there, and I know how it will work for a busker. In fact, Tarbell 1 has enough material in it that Magical Mystical Michael was able to start his busking and renaissance festival career on that book alone.

Bobo will teach you sleights you can use with anything that is small and round. The Ammar book will give you cups and balls material that is essential.

But if you are going to busk, read books on busking.
"The Swatter"

Founder of CODBAMMC

My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups."

www.cupsandballsmuseum.com
Martino
View Profile
Special user
Manchester, UK
919 Posts

Profile of Martino
Sam,

I have a serious question. How can you have all those books and not know a thing about magic and haven't read ANY of them?

Another point, earlier you mentioned you "printed" the Ammar book out - have you downloaded these books from some filesharing site?

Whilst all the advice offered here to you is commendable and given in good will, I must say that I question your aquisition of this material. If you bought someones estate then I apologise, but in this day and age I suspect not.

I would suggest deleting all the books you have from your hard drive, go out and BUY one of the books recommended for a beginner magician e.g. Mark Wilsons complete course in magic and then come back in a year or so when you've had a chance to digest it, learn it, practice it and perform it.

Regards,

Martino.
"There's a difference between not knowing how something is done and knowing it can't be done!" - Simon Aronson
Sam Griffin
View Profile
Regular user
Australia
170 Posts

Profile of Sam Griffin
Thank you bill, yes tarbell is great. I'm onto lesson four and loving it Smile
"When we are on stage, we are in the here and now."
"The eye is the window of your soul."

"The PERFORMER must BELIEVE in everything that takes place on the stage, only then will the AUDIENCE BELIEVE!
magic4545
View Profile
Inner circle
Jimmy Fingers
1178 Posts

Profile of magic4545
Magical Mystical Michael was my hero growing up.

And I swear, that was thirty years ago, and he still looks like he hasn't aged much. What a nice guy and a great performer and creator.
gerard1973
View Profile
Special user
Michigan, U.S.A.
688 Posts

Profile of gerard1973
Sam:

Wow! They're ALL good books. If I were you, I would just pick one the easier magic books; like Card College Volume 1, Now You See It Now You Don't, or The Magic Of Michael Ammar and start reading from there.
"Confusion is not magic."
Dai Vernon
Red Von
View Profile
Loyal user
Branson, MO
251 Posts

Profile of Red Von
I would start with the book that intrigues you the most, then take it from there!

No amount of reading will make you a professional magician though!! You need to get out in front of an audience and apply everything you learn. The audience will determine where you stand and how far you go!!

You can be as talented as Copperfield in front of a mirror, but if you can't sell yourself and convince an audience... No amount of reading will help you out there!!

Bottom line... Buy, read, learn, and practice, practice, practice... Until you feel comfortable with yourself and routine to take that next step before an audience! My two cents anyway!!

:cheers:
spycrapper
View Profile
Loyal user
Indonesia
295 Posts

Profile of spycrapper
Where can I buy The Magic of Michael Ammar, secret of Bro. John Hamman, and Art of Astonishment ebook? I don't ever know that all those books are available in e-book format
Magic is life

Ario A.
visit my blog:
http://amagicblog.wordpress.com
erdnase101
View Profile
New user
56 Posts

Profile of erdnase101
A journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step. And that step should be opening the first page of CC1.
magicbern
View Profile
Inner circle
Hong Kong, China
1217 Posts

Profile of magicbern
Quote:
On 2006-03-08 08:00, Martino wrote:
Sam,

I have a serious question. How can you have all those books and not know a thing about magic and haven't read ANY of them?

Another point, earlier you mentioned you "printed" the Ammar book out - have you downloaded these books from some filesharing site?

Whilst all the advice offered here to you is commendable and given in good will, I must say that I question your aquisition of this material. If you bought someones estate then I apologise, but in this day and age I suspect not.

I would suggest deleting all the books you have from your hard drive, go out and BUY one of the books recommended for a beginner magician e.g. Mark Wilsons complete course in magic and then come back in a year or so when you've had a chance to digest it, learn it, practice it and perform it.

Regards,

Martino.


I just read this thread and to be frank, the first thing that caught my eye was the same statement that mrtino elaborates on in his post quoted above.

Where did he get a downloadable copy of Ammar's book from? It doesn't seem possible given that only a printed copy exists.

Also, this member never addresses this ethical vacuum and just continues to talk about his 'collection'. Seems fishy to me (pardon the cynical overtones).

As for the original question, I took would recommend reading and assimlating Tarbell for all the essential grounding on our art (and then Ortiz' Strong Magic and the controversial but thought-provoking Absolute Magic by Derren Brown).
Martino
View Profile
Special user
Manchester, UK
919 Posts

Profile of Martino
Magicbern,

Unfortunately, a rather colourful "discussion" between Sam Griffin and myself led to a number of posts being deleted until the thread got back on track. I still have my doubts about the acquisition of the "books" but hey ho, what can you do?

Regards,

Martino.
"There's a difference between not knowing how something is done and knowing it can't be done!" - Simon Aronson
magicbern
View Profile
Inner circle
Hong Kong, China
1217 Posts

Profile of magicbern
Martino, I guess we can't do much but raise awareness among our brethren. Still it boils down to one's personal ethical threshold...its been going on since time immemorial.
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Books, Pamphlets & Lecture Notes » » Books to be read, which one first..is the question! (0 Likes)
 Go to page [Previous]  1~2
[ Top of Page ]
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2021 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved.
This page was created in 0.14 seconds requiring 5 database queries.
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café
are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic.
> Privacy Statement <

ROTFL Billions and billions served! ROTFL