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Chrystal
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Hiya Steve,

Greetings to my nemesis by the way. :O) Drat the prozac isn't working these days? Ah well back to the matter at hand..regardless of if you believe the World Health Organization or not..just make sure you have hefty insurance or at least an epi pen on hand. After all not my place to say what effects one should use but just making people aware of the potential dangers. I'd think it's just awful of parents of 3 year olds whom have the allergy not to let the kids run around with needles myself! Okay...now deep breaths...everyone is happy once again.

Your Pal always
C
Steve V
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I've decided to ban children with peanut allergies from attending my shows. I don't even do the PB and J, I just don't like children with peanut allergies and I don't want to risk having a passerbye returning from a baseball game sneeze and sending particles of peanuts into the air. I'm also demanding that these children be banned from ball games in general as well as flying on airlines. My main concern is a preschool serving deep fried food to the chillins.
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I have always wanted to add the PB&J to my show, without the sandwich bit. I have seen many funny versions that don't require the sandwich.

Has anyone ever objected to seeing the PB jar (which I assume is not full of real PB)
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Steve V
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Remember, they don't know what is or isn't in the sandwich so do it minus peanut butter. Knowing the whack jobs running around I bet you would have a mother of a peanutly challenged kids whine about the visual.
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Donald Dunphy
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On 2006-03-04 19:38, N.Bacon wrote:
Has anyone ever objected to seeing the PB jar (which I assume is not full of real PB)


At one time, someone commented about having actual parent / teacher objections to just seeing the PB jar, on another older thread about PB&J.

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Some of the kids might be allergic to THINKING about peanuts, so I guess I should just sell my original Tim Wenk/Metempirical Magic PB$J effect and props as a collector's item for $300 to some lucky NON-allergic person.

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Steve, sounds like a deal for somebody.

Let’s just hope, it being ole, it doesn’t contain a lead-based paint, a big killer of children.

Approximately 890,000 children in the US alone aged 1-5 years have blood lead levels to high. Caused mainly from paint. Magicians should check all their props.


Tom

And please don’t forget to help protect those poor little ole spotted neck, one legged birds out there somewhere.
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Steve V
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I was going to mention paint but was afraid it would start a panic.
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Alexander Leidy
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My solution to the issue is to talk to the parents and make sure they know that my usual routine includes a peanut butter sandwich and balloons, and to find out if anyone in attendance at said event has a peanut/latex allergy. If so, I just use different effects. I also have them sign something that says that I told them there would be peanuts and latex involved with the show, so if they didn't tell anybody about the use of those products, I can't be sued.

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Yes the paint issue is a big one. Concerned magicians should take their props in to be tested. Unlike the peanut butter that kills the child on the spot, not only can lead poison kill a child, it can cause learning disabilities, hyperactivity, attention deficit disorder, behavioral disorders, neurological damage, stunted growth, anemia, hearing loss, and sometimes mental retardation.

But getting back to the food thing. Almost one third of the population omit certain foods from their diet because they Believe they will cause an allergic reaction. The most frequent food allergies are to milk, eggs, peanuts, fish, nuts, citrus fruit and tomatoes. Under certain conditions, any of these could kill a child. Or even you.

Any use of a food item in your show could make certain children/parents jump.

Hot Dogs are a major cause of choking. Any mention of them could bring back bad memories to many.

Kids get sick from sour milk everyday. Using a milk pitcher could be bad taste.

Eggs are a no-no to some children. Using the egg bag is not a good idea.

Children have stuck crayons up their nose and been rushed to the doctor. The coloring book could bring back bad memories to them.

More than 20 percent of school-age children suffer from allergies. Make sure your props are free of dust,hair,animal dander, etc.


So please folks, warn them about peanut butter.

Tom
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I don't use the real PB&J sandwich as the kicker, and likely never will. The trick itself--that is, the gimmicked jars and their tubes--aren't going to hurt anyone as long as they've never been in contact with real peanuts.

How about ending with a funny foam sandwich? Lots of comedy possibilities when the magi tries to take a bite! When that doesn't work, Hershey's Kisses could be produced using your favorite production method and presented to the children after noting--naturally--"Hey! You got chocolate in my peanut butter!"
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And that's all I'm going to say on this topic.
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I read this thread on Friday wondering what you guys were talking about with the covers sticking. On Saturday, at a show, I found out. Smile

(i'll be trying the armor all).
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Perhaps we need a manufacturer to make the covers from leather? The old "ball and cone" sets were leather.
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On 2006-03-05 05:55, rickmorse wrote:
The trick itself--that is, the gimmicked jars and their tubes--aren't going to hurt anyone as long as they've never been in contact with real peanuts.


This is true, but you'd be surprised how many teachers, parents, etc. absolutely FREAK OUT when they see the jar of "Peanut Butter." Even if you've told them ahead of time it's a fake Peanut Butter Jar (I would hate to see these people react when they turn the corner at the grocery store and come face to face with an entire shelf of the real thing!). I have seen numerous threads here recounting such episodes. I performed PB&J only once. It was at a family gathering where I knew there would be no concerns. After reading all of the bad experiences so many magicians are having with this, I sold mine. I decided it wasn't worth having to worry whether or not people were going to panic every time I performed it. I don't need that kind of drama in my life. I figure there are planty of other effects that are just as good or better than PB&J to round out my show.

I've been thinking of other things that could be substituted to perform the same effect just with a different "theme."

The first thing I ruled out was a wine bottle and a glass of wine. Smile Smile

I've been thinking about possibilities like:
A bottle of coke and a can of pepsi. Smile
A toy mouse and a wedge of cheese (got to watch out for those dairy allergies though!)
Cake & Ice Cream Smile

etc.

Other ideas, anybody? Together we can wipe this Peanut scourge from the face of the planet!!!! Smile Smile
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Neale Bacon
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Rick Morse - Funny idea with the foam sandwich. David Ginn sells a funny one. It has feathers sticking out all over. You say "This doesn't look like PB and J. I wonder what kind it is?" You open the sandwich to show a mirror inside. Have someone look at it and say "Oh look. Turkey!"
Or in my case I do it to myself and say "Look, it's ham! (Bacon..get it?)

magicbob- I like the idea of a variation on it. I think the coke and pepsi is interesting although there might be copyright issues.
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Bob Johnston
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N.Bacon:

Why do you think a Coke or Pepsi would be a copyright issue, are you planning on selling the trick?

Bob
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Coke and Pepsi are both waaaayyyyy into protecting copyrights. They will have secret shoppers go into places that sell the others products and, for example, say "Can I have a coke?" and if the person serves a Pepsi they will serve notice to them right there and then. That is why most places will tell you "sorry, we have Pepsi not Coke", they have to. Another interesting thing about Coke is there are soda companies that file suit trying to get the word 'coke' to be generic for a carmel colored soda. This way any producer can sell 'coke'. This is what happened to Formica. Used to be a brand until it became common usage and the courts ruled that the Formica company no longer owned their own name. Now neither will really care if its name is used in the trick except who ever end up on the losing end will likely not be thrilled.
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I was just brainstorming about various other "pairs" to substitute for PB&J (for my personal use only, not to sell). I doubt I would go with Coke and Pepsi anyway... too similar I think. Maybe just doing a passe bottle routine with a bottle of "cola" and a glass would be the way to go.

But if you did it using an actual bottle (gimmicked of course) of Coke and a real can of Pepsi, where would the copyright infringement be? I've seen quite a few illusions that use gimmicked Coke (as well as Pepsi, 7-up, beer, etc.) bottles, cans, etc. And what about tricks that can be done with any normal soda can or bottle (quarter through can, traditional coin in bottle, healed and sealed). Are you saying that you can't use a can of coke to perform a magic trick? That's like Bicycle saying it's a copyright infringement to do a card trick using one of their decks!
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Jim Poor
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Doesn't PB&J use the Peter Pan peanut butter jar?
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