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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
I think you have it backwards. Just IN Case does not use a reel.
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Merc Man Inner circle NUNEATON, Warwickshire 2538 Posts |
Dr J A,
I think my dislike with Pro-Flight is the fact that the keys are already in view as part of the routine - so spectators would simply put 2 and 2 together and can backtrack that you did a fake transfer and simply attached it. It therefore removes a significant part of the 'surprise impact' in my view.
Barry Allen
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jugglestruck Inner circle Wales 1038 Posts |
I Can't believe no one has mentioned Ring Flight Revolution by Dave Bonsall.
Totally reliable, fiendishly deceptive and a great guy to deal with. |
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The Baldini Inner circle I some how pounded in 2445 Posts |
Many have said "Just in Case" is the best non reel, then it's been said there are issues with large rings, also I would like to know which ones require a tt.
Dinky D is in my opinion , cheap, RFR, is big and bulky, Departures new version is great, smooth and strong. For non reel I like the Einhorn ring flite, even though I can not load as smooth and Rastas Nick does. Back to just in case, I have been looking at this for a while, just need more info to justify the $$$ |
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Merc Man Inner circle NUNEATON, Warwickshire 2538 Posts |
Dave - did you mean 'Rinky D' is cheap? If so, I'd have to agree - I paid about £45 for it and I've used it constantly for around 3 years.
If you mean it's production is 'cheap' then I'd certainly beg to differ. Surely, if it was cheap, then it wouldn't have lasted. Maybe you'd like to tell me differently. As for Einhorn's Pro Flight - sorry, but I don't even consider that a 'flying ring' effect in the truest sense - in all honesty, it reminds me more of one of Tenyo's puzzles.
Barry Allen
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The Baldini Inner circle I some how pounded in 2445 Posts |
Barry, I meant cheap as in quality, I purchased it just when it was first introduced and I had issues with it, much like early versions of Departure, I have a new Departure now and is 100 times better, perhaps RD has gone thru some positive changes,
As for your feelings on Pro Flite, I must disagree with you, like me, many working pro's love and use this, let me also state, I am not a full time worker, I do about 4-6 trade shows per year, but they are quite tough, on me and my props, RD when I had it, never made it thru a few days of practice . I wish you would revisit pro flite or the few similar effects that are reel less, I think PF is pretty amazing, but my feelings aside, I have it and my audience loves it. |
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Dr_J_Ayala Inner circle In search of Vlad Dracul and his 2169 Posts |
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On 2011-08-04 03:01, Pete Biro wrote: I apologize - major brain fart! My head was obviously on backwards... The version I meant to name was the Sterling Ring Flight (which uses a reel) and that is my reel-based recommendation. I personally prefer versions that do not use a reel, owing to all the things that can go horribly wrong with a borrowed finger ring. One of the best horror stories I have ever heard about a reel flight gone wrong came courtesy of Alan Rorrison. In short, he borrowed an engagement ring that was only two hours old and had a larger diamond on it, went to perform the effect and a second later heard the ring clink as it landed in a soup bowl of a patron sitting 5 or 7 tables behind him. As far as an audience being able to piece together the working of a method like Pro-Flite, it all comes down to your presentation. I have never had a problem with it and I have always gotten some of the best reactions using it. The presentation given for Just In Case is a perfect example of a well-routined ring flight with its story and premise, the build-up of the suspense and tension, the revelation and the climax. The same can easily be done with Pro-Flite, and even with a similar presentation. |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
There's a nice demo of Just IN Case at http://www.petebiro.com Once on a short scroll in the "videos" section will show it.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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The Baldini Inner circle I some how pounded in 2445 Posts |
Pete, does Just in Case need a TT and is it true , it is not good for large rings?
Thanks Dave |
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cmeyers New user 30 Posts |
Ring flight revolution is the way to go. More expensive, but worth every penny.
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cmeyers New user 30 Posts |
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On 2011-08-04 15:59, jugglestruck wrote: Agreed! |
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RS1963 Inner circle 2734 Posts |
I would go with Bloom's Flying Ring, Dusheck's Ringer, or Biro's Just In Case. You never ever have to worry about a reel breaking or the ring flying off the hook while it's being pulled to the case by the reel.
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djurmann Inner circle thinks time to practice and stop writing 1481 Posts |
Dave Bonsall's ring flight revolution is ace - but before you spend money on a gimmick ask yourself this. Having bought one are you then prepared to perform the effect on other people's jewellery knowing they may sue you? If you have insurance, or more courage than I have then ring flight revolution is really good and the customer service first class.
Danny |
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Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts |
I use Dusheck's Ringer. It's great with the right presentation and is so easy to use. It's gentle on the ring, too.
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djurmann Inner circle thinks time to practice and stop writing 1481 Posts |
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On 2011-09-26 16:35, Alan Munro wrote: Yeah but I am less worried about damage to the ring and more worried about someone claiming that the ring I return isn't theirs! |
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RS1963 Inner circle 2734 Posts |
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On 2011-09-27 02:59, djurmann wrote: On rare occasion that can happen. If it does it isn't going to matter what type of ring flight you use. If it is that big of a worry I would suggest don't do the effect. |
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Alan Munro Inner circle Kentwood, Michigan, USA 5952 Posts |
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On 2011-09-27 02:59, djurmann wrote: If they say that, take back the ring and sell it to a pawn shop. LOL I've never had them say that because I'll make sure their lie will bite them. |
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
Don't borrow anyone's ring other than a man's wedding band or a school/military ring.
STAY TOONED... @ www.pete-biro.com
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Rainboguy Inner circle 1915 Posts |
I've been using the Gaeton Bloom version of ring flight for years, and it's hassle-free, uses no reel, and it's simple, elegant and a fooler. I'm very happy with it.
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Martino Special user Manchester, UK 928 Posts |
A friend of mine had a woman claim the ring he returned to her wasn't hers. She got security over and everything. He had to take them all somewhere private and explain how the trick worked before she finally remembered she'd changed her jewellery before she'd come out for the evening.
Oh and in my opinion Dave Bonsalls Ring Flight Revolution is the best reel method out there.
"There's a difference between not knowing how something is done and knowing it can't be done!" - Simon Aronson
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