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Piers Inner circle A Limited Edition of 1394 Posts |
Uri Geller – 2006 – Performance Thoughts.
We saw Uri Geller this week, at the St.Albans Civic Centre… Like many, I still vividly remember the BBC show where Uri Geller bent spoons and made watches start. I think from that day on, continuing today, he became a household name. As the 2 hour performance commenced, Uri Geller immediately engaged his audience. His personality is of course a strong one, but it has every reason to be. Uri started with a history of his earlier life. I learnt much about his childhood, not an easy one by all accounts, and it is fair to say that he has come out of things remarkably well ! Perhaps the initial poverty and hardship spurred him on to greater things. And the many newspaper articles he displayed certainly were testament to the incredible number of well known figures he has met, and his varied life and travels. Of course, what many wanted to see, was his ‘spoon bending and watch mending’. And they were not disappointed. With the help of the audience, and children invited on stage, the spoons did bend ( quite simply amazing ! ), and the broken watches did start, a large pile of them, almost without exception. Uri Geller also talked about his thoughts on UFO’s and the more unusual facets of life, but also demonstrated his views on Positive Thinking and Self Belief. Not just for himself, but for the audience as a whole. My wife especially, felt truly lifted and quite moved, by what he had to say. And I think it will stay with her for some time. The complete presentation was a full and rounded one. Two hours of spoon bending it was not. But the old and the new were beautifully combined, with an opportunity for questions at the end. At the finish, Uri Geller took time ( real time ), to talk, sign autographs, pose for photographs, in a way that was really nice. He could simply have existed stage left, but probably spent at least another hour, with his audience. I certainly came away with positive thoughts (!), but also a new insight into this household name. I also learnt with interest, about the extensive Charity work he does. In a word – excellent. Piers. UK www.justgiving.com/piers-cancer-fund www.justgiving.com/Piers-Cancer-Fund-2 www.justgiving.com/Piers-Cancer-Fund-3 Finished my 4 months of Chemotherapy in 2009. 3 monthly checks since... and into 2021! As seen on the QE2 and QM2. Author of Salem's Cornucopia - SUC Book |
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r1z08 Inner circle 1158 Posts |
Uri takes a lot of flack from magicians/Mentalists because of his extraordinary claims (I will not post my views on these claims here as they do not pertain to this thread), but many people do not realize how much he has actually done for the art of Mentalism. He made people believe, he was larger than life and always kept his cool. There is a lot to be learned from the life and career of Uri Geller if we can just get passed our own biased opinions about him.
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David Numen Inner circle 2072 Posts |
He is what so many Mentalists fail to be - a genuinely fascinating personality that you can´t help but want to find out more about. We could all take a lesson from this.
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Harry H Inner circle 1526 Posts |
Is he not also a con man (alledgedly). His website sells all manner of crystals purporting to have healing properties, etc. He even has a disclaimer stating basically there is no evidence that they work! So why are you selling them?!
I'd rather take my lessons from someone with a few more morals thanks, who talks less ********! |
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the-robot-that-cannot-die New user 49 Posts |
I saw his Mansfield show a couple of weeks back, I had a chat with him afterwards and he gave me "unique advice," well that was his words, but in fact it was the same advice he has given many of my collegues. Oh and he also thought Marc Salem and Banachek were both dead. In response to my question on Uri's thoughts of Derren Brown, he replied, "Who?"
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Piers Inner circle A Limited Edition of 1394 Posts |
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HE entertined me, inspired me ( and my wife ). Something I can't always do! Best, Piers. www.justgiving.com/piers-cancer-fund www.justgiving.com/Piers-Cancer-Fund-2 www.justgiving.com/Piers-Cancer-Fund-3 Finished my 4 months of Chemotherapy in 2009. 3 monthly checks since... and into 2021! As seen on the QE2 and QM2. Author of Salem's Cornucopia - SUC Book |
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r1z08 Inner circle 1158 Posts |
It's strange that Uri would not have any knowledge of Derren Brown because in one of his articles he talks about doing some spoon bending for him.
Whether or not you agree with what Uri sells himself as, I do not believe that this thread should be subjected to it. If you wish to discuss your thoughts on Uri that does not pertain to his show, please start another thread. |
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David Numen Inner circle 2072 Posts |
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Is he not also a con man (alledgedly). The allegedly part of your question would seem to indicate you know the answer to that? Pardon me, but I kind of thought that was the purpose of Mentalism. Quote:
His website sells all manner of crystals purporting to have healing properties, etc. He even has a disclaimer stating basically there is no evidence that they work! So where´s the con? I guarantee that the power of suggestion is such that some people will be helped by the crystals. Quote:
So why are you selling them?! You might be aware of the many people around the world disenchanted with the Medical profession which in turn has created something of a boon in alternative therapies. Thing is, as kooky as some of these therapies seem to some people, they can and do work for some. This is just an extension of that and he quite sensibly has a legal disclaimer on his sight. Quote:
I'd rather take my lessons from someone with a few more morals thanks, who talks less ********! If the guy is a fake then he is unquestionably the best fake there´s ever been given his success - I´ll quite happily study him thanks. And as for morals...I´ve always found Uri mostly extremely clever in his claims and his positive thinking stance has probably helped more people achieve their goals than the average Mentalist will ever get the chance to entertain. And his charity work probably wipes out the average Mentalist´s annual paycheck. So whilst he may, in your eyes, be propagating a "lie" he has undoubtedly used his position to help a great many other people. |
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magicman02 Veteran user 304 Posts |
I am doing a 30 page report on Uri for my college thesis. The class is a Popular culture class and I am going to take about how Uri took the world by storm and became a household name in the 70s and 80s. I used my mentalist skills to talk my teacher into doing it, after I moved her glasses, haha! The paper isn't to debunk him or anything (personally I think if even he is fake, so what, he has done a lot to help people with his work then Randi and other people who attack him, he has inspired millions, what is wrong with that?)
I even emailed him and told him I was doing my paper on him and within 10 minutes he emailed me back and said he would be more then happy to talk to me on the phone and answer any questions I have. I never meet the guy, but I hear he is a great guy, whatever you think of him. |
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lane99 Elite user 421 Posts |
Magicman...are you telling us that you are not, even in the slightest way, ambivalent about what U/Geller does?
And, if you are not, can I assume that you will aproach your college thesis with the same level of regard for the truth that U/Geller exhibits? |
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David Numen Inner circle 2072 Posts |
This is where some skeptics show a lack of perspective...the guy has said it´s a thesis for a popular culture class and it´s on how Uri took the world by storm. That´s a story that can be told quite thoroughly without any need for debunking.
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lane99 Elite user 421 Posts |
The question is still open to Magicman; and there's a point still to be made.
However, I've read your previous comments, too, bartlewizard. And I'll put the same question to you: do you have any ambivalence about what U/geller says and does? Quite honestly, what I perceive your points to be have weaknesses so glaring that I don't think it is even necessary for me to draw attention to them. However, I may be misunderstanding your points (as, incidentally, you seem to have done mine). So, in the interest of mutual understanding, for example, am I correct that: 1) you recognize full well that U/geller's crystals have no INHERENT curative powers 2) you find nothing, in any way, even remotely, questionable about his selling them as curative tools so long as he has put a disclaimer somewhere in the fine print? |
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David Numen Inner circle 2072 Posts |
I recognize that the crystals MAY help some people. A mixture of the placebo effect and pure suggestion could produce some fascinating results. I am browsing his site just now for these crystals and he says nothing that other crystal vendors would say - in fact I think what he is saying is decidedly honest. If only some religions could follow the same level of honesty!
I have also found this quote on healing which I think suns up his stance pretty well: "Dear friends I just want you to know and understand that I'm NOT a miracle worker or a healer. I believe that spontaneous healings occur because of your own Mindpower and I am only acting as a trigger, a catalyst, an enabler, and of course by no way am I saying to anyone to abandon conventional medicine. As a matter of fact conventional medicine is still the number one method of curing yourself but parallel to conventional medicine please use the power of positive intention. I believe that in some cases that could work" Since teh medical world is replete with sudden, unexplained, miracle cures, do you not think he might have a point about the body´s ability to heal itself? And isn´t it a wonderful thing for ANYONE to encourage that? In addition, when I did readings I used the Kentonism business card idea and left them with a tool that clients could use to relax themselves and help themselves come up with solutions to their problems. Now, to you it may just have been a strange whirpool effect printed on a business card but for many people it was a valuable tool which they could use to clarify their mind. I know because they told me this six months after giving it to them. What Uri seems to be doing with his crystals is an extension of this. If I had his name and reputation and felt it could help people empower themselves I believe I´d do the same. |
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the-robot-that-cannot-die New user 49 Posts |
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On 2006-03-04 12:46, r1z08 wrote: Should have kept quiet, now look what youve done |
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David Numen Inner circle 2072 Posts |
Isn´t it interesting that it always seems to be the skeptics that interfere in these threads...?
I saw Uri live in Edinburgh 1996. Despite some t$sser of a magician throwing him a completely unworkable watch, he was charming, witty, intelligent, fascinating, powerful, thought-provoking and entertaining. And I left not caring whether he was real or not but caring that he had impressed me and inspired me. As, I would guess, did a large percentage of the audience. |
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
Magicman02
Good luck with the project. It sounds interesting, and having the access to the source is fantastic. I remember sitting in front of the televison with spoons and a broken watch. He was defimnitly a Pop Star. Ignore the detractors. bartlewizard Those are not the remarks of a skeptic. Skeptics by definition have an open mind, the comments posted here are from those who appear not to have such. A line from Monty Python and the Holy Grail keeps popping into my head, everytime I read these types of posts: "Burn the witch, burn the witch!" Tony |
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David Numen Inner circle 2072 Posts |
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Those are not the remarks of a skeptic. Skeptics by definition have an open mind, the comments posted here are from those who appear not to have such. Yes, you are quite right Tony. For years I have used the "k" spelling to differentiate between those close-minded individuals and genuine sceptics. I understand nobody else would know this! And it´s not just about having a close-mind - there seems to be a posse on this forum who not only have closed their minds but just seem to completely miss the point about Mentalism. |
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
I've met the "posse" a few times. (You might have seen that with some of my posts in the past.) Once you realize where they are coming from, age, and experience, it becomes easier to deal with. Some are fundamentalist in their views, and I accept that. Others may just be attention seekers. I have a 4 year old nephew like that. I think about him when I read some of the posts, it makes me smile.
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chichi711 Inner circle 5810 Posts |
I have a question. Did Uri really take the world by storm? If I went out and asked 100 people who Uri is would more than 5 be able to tell me? I am just wondering.
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Tony Iacoviello Eternal Order 13151 Posts |
Chichi:
If you had asked 30 years ago, yes. Tony |
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