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Friendship is a problematic when it comes to reviewing anything. No one likes hearing anything ghastly said about a friends work and does not want to say anything unpleasant himself because of the friendship factor. Whether Sal is a real cool guy or not is nothing to do with the question. I don’t think it even matters if someone making a DVD can do the moves well or not. Is there any good ideas given in the DVD that can be used in a game is the important thing with regard to the question.
I know Sal and he is a great guy yadda yadda yadda!
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One thing I owe to anyone that is my friend is to be honest with them. My friendship with anyone is not a deciding factor in my opinion of what they do or how they do it. If they do something that I think is garbage, I tell them. It's pretty much better to hear it from afriend than one of the twits that we find bouncing around in cyberspace.
Tommy, the DVD does have some very nice work on it. I would suggest getting it and forming your own opinion. Granted the sleeve hold out work isn't great but it gives you the premise to learn from. That's what this DVD was meant for. To teach people how to keep from getting cheated. I also think that you could learn different methods if you havent ever been exposed to them before, and perhaps even improve your own handling of such moves.
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I have taken the liberty of clipping this post from the previous thread regarding this DVD , I hope mook doesn't mind. Those who are sincerely interested in a detailed review of Sals poker DVD should check the fourth page of the previous thread on this subject for my own review in which I describe the ACTUAL CONTENT of the DVD .
Dowser...
Here is Mook's post :

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46 Posts Posted: Feb 18, 2006 8:41pm               
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I found this review of of Sal Piacente's "Poker Cheats Exposed" at http://www.blackjackforumonline.com

Subject : New Poker Cheating DVD Set by ArnoldSnyder on 02-05-2006 13:26

I recently had the opportunity to watch a couple of DVDs by Sal Piacente on cheating at poker. I've known Sal for many years. He's an old buddy of Steve Forte's and used to work in casino surveillance. He still does consulting for casinos, mostly on game protection. You may have seen him in that recent discovery channel documentary on cheating. I wrote a review of the DVDs (below) and told Sal he could post my review on his web site. I have no financial interest in this product.

"Poker Cheats Exposed" is a 2-1/2 hour, 2-DVD set. This is the best and most comprehensive exposé of card cheating methods—and specifically poker cheating methods—that I have ever seen. It is also the first video presentation of card cheating techniques that can be favorably compared to Steve Forte’s 1994 “Gambling Protection Series” videos.

The production quality is top notch and Sal’s explanations are as clear as can be. His skill at card manipulation is unsurpassed. In fact, what strikes you is the simplicity of the moves he demonstrates. Poker is a game where controlling a single card can often affect who wins a big pot. Sal shows how easily and invisibly a single card—or a small group of cards—can be controlled.

He demonstrates many ways that a player who is working in collusion with a crooked dealer pretty much has a license to steal. He also shows ways that players working alone, or with confederates at the table, can cheat without the dealer’s involvement. He explains the types of cheating moves players are most likely to encounter in private games, as well as in public poker rooms.

He shows many variations of false shuffles, deck-stacking, second dealing, covert signals, card marking techniques, mechanical devices, and the specific types of cheating you're most likely to encounter in both Texas hold’em and seven-card stud.

Many of the moves are performed by Sal, but he is also aided by “Charlie,” an anonymous poker player whose face we don’t see, but who admits to having made his living as a poker cheat for 45 years, never once having been caught.

Every serious poker player should get this DVD set. It’s scary. If you play high stakes poker, or if you ever play in private games, you’re making a big mistake if you don’t take the time to study the ways that professional poker cheats work.
You can purchase the DVDs online at http://www.pocketacesllc.net, or at the Gamblers Book Shop in Las Vegas.

[Arnold Snyder is the author of many books on casino gambling, and is the editor of Blackjack Forum Online, a web site run by professional gamblers.]
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As far as the original Question on this thread "can these moves hold up in the real world?"...I believe anyone watching the DVD's will realize immediately that these techniques were not invented by magicians or for the purpose of making DVD's . This information comes from the real world and has already proved it's worth in that arena.
Finally , I believe that this 2 DVD set exposes the best and most practicle and deceptive techniques ever exposed for cheating at hold'em which have never been discussed in such detail with so many variations before....Location Plays .
Some of you may disagree (of course) with the value I attribute to these particular techniques....but then again some of you may perform color monte or the jumping gems in between hands to lighten the mood.
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Thanks Dowser, Mook and BAH1313.

Now that is very interesting and the sort of stuff mentioned on the DVD sounds like just the sort of stuff I like. To tell the truth I am bit concerned that Sal has not said too much and mentioned something I am using. Smile Anyway thanks for the advice. I will send for one. I would have have done anyway as I have every other cheat DVD etc good and not so good. When a cheat DVD comes out it bugs me that there might be something good on them that I am missing. Smile

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I guess no one is interested in selling their DvD on ebay?
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So, what is your offer ?
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Well that depends. If I want to buy it from pocketaces,then I have to pay $100 for the DvD, probably a lot for shipping, then at the customs: VAT and additional taxes as the DvD is shipped from the US.. so basically, I'll pay less then I otherwise have to altogether. It depends a lot on how much the shipping would be as well. (I don't know the totalt cost yet, still waiting for Dee P to reply by email).
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Yes...I have used Global priority for shipping in the past and it costs about $15 USD.
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Okey. Well I'll check with Dee and with the customs and see how much it would be altogether. I'll give you about $50 - $ 60 for it if the shipping is that expensive. And then comes the additional costs for me. Sorry but I think that is the best I can do. I am unemployed at the moment and will go to university this autumn.

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One thing you do need is a bankroll to play or cheat at the poker table, unless your the dealer. Indeed I think your money at moment may be better spent on the pro poker dealers hand book some cards and chips and teach yourself to deal poker to earn a bank roll . But I am not sure about demand for good poker dealers in Finland but here in the UK contract dealers are in demand. You would be working for tips but in the right games you can earn good money as freelance dealer.
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I never like one dealer....all you need is a kickback and you have a partner Smile
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Well I don't intend to use any of it for the purpose of cheating. If I become a dealer I may no longer play at PAF tables which is the leading distributor of poker and other games up here. We have one casino in town and they have enough dealers as it is. I love playing poker, fair and square, not for the money. You should never say never but as of now, as I already said, I do not plan to cheat anyone. I have job for the summer but have to save that money for education and my eye operation. thanks for replying. Expertmagician, I guess you aren't interested then?
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It's OK...the DVD is not a teaching DVD...but, it does a great job of exposing how people can cheat at cards. There is a big difference between exposing and teaching.
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On 2006-03-31 15:42, Expertmagician wrote:
There is a big difference between exposing and teaching.


Yes I agree 100% it's the like big difference between The Queen of Diamonds and The Queen of Diamonds. Smile


By the way re the dealer thing I was not talking about becoming a licenced dealer as you do not need a licence to be able to earn good money dealing in fact I would say the lienced guys earn less.
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On 2006-03-31 15:42, Expertmagician wrote:
There is a big difference between exposing and teaching.


Yes I agree 100% it's the like big difference between The Queen of Diamonds and The Queen of Diamonds. Smile


By the way re the dealer thing I was not talking about becoming a licenced dealer as you do not need a licence to be able to earn good money dealing in fact I would say the lienced guys earn less.


That's interesting.

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Are you sure about that mr. Z?
you can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all the time but never all of the people all the time.
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On 2006-04-01 00:36, sodman12 wrote:
Are you sure about that mr. Z?


*** straight. Here in Nevada a Sheriff's Card is required, which consists of finger-printing and a background check. Other states have their own types of gaming licenses.
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Ok I just wanted to know becasue iamslow told me you did not need one to deal just skills
you can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all the time but never all of the people all the time.
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On 2006-04-01 15:59, sodman12 wrote:
Ok I just wanted to know becasue iamslow told me you did not need one to deal just skills


He's in Canada, is he not? Perhaps it works differently up there.

At any rate, go to dealing school buddy.
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