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CC: I do enjoy magic tricks... just like a person that enjoys a certain genre of music can enjoy a different one. But that is not the reason I have posted once more...
"DOC,
I have been conversating and working with one of this status (and in my mind perhaps in ways greater status), but it has not been here and it was not one of these fellas." CC

Let me set you straight on something,sport. And let me make myself crystal clear. Steve Forte is the best in the world. The person that you have been conversating with couldn't be a pimple on Steve's @#!. Both of you put together are not enough to even cast a shadow on Steve. In the interest of not being ban from this forum, I will not even scrape the surface of how strongly I feel about your ignorant comment. I hope everyone with any amount of sense or knowledge will set this piece of trash straight.
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CC: I do enjoy magic tricks... just like a person that enjoys a certain genre of music can enjoy a different one. But that is not the reason I have posted once more...
"DOC,
I have been conversating and working with one of this status (and in my mind perhaps in ways greater status), but it has not been here and it was not one of these fellas." CC

Let me set you straight on something,sport. And let me make myself crystal clear. Steve Forte is the best in the world. The person that you have been conversating with couldn't be a pimple on Steve's @#!. Both of you put together are not enough to even cast a shadow on Steve. In the interest of not being ban from this forum, I will not even scrape the surface of how strongly I feel about your ignorant comment. I hope everyone with any amount of sense or knowledge will set this piece of trash straight.
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On 2006-03-11 17:00, card cheat wrote:
Anyhow, thanks for chiming in, DOC. I still have your number and might call you one of these days just to chit chat. Perhaps we could even get together and trade chops, who knows? I do miss it there. I would love to see this machine in action, and to show you a few gaffs that I have had made for me in the past. Perhaps it's time to start selling some of them?

CC


Card Cheat it would be an honor meeting you. Why I say that is being that I was a magician and not raised on the streets as a hustler I lack in a lot of areas regarding hustling and street sense, this is what my teacher was teaching me before he passed away. Any knowledge taught any where regarding hustling cards, dice or anything is worth more than gold. What these magicians fail to realize is that since all they want to see are flaw less gambling moves and how many moves can one person do they are forgetting what the cheats goal is...and that is to win the money. If only one move need to be done constantly all night long than that's all we do.

To Those Reading This Thread

Both of these individuals are handling themselves like professional gamblers with two different view points meaninig that neither is really wrong just different view points; one may be casino the other streets. One more point I'd like to make is this, being that the hustling world is a small place, CC has stated somethings about certain things that I know to be true but I am not at liberty to speak on nor clarify. In certain instances (if you read between the lines) things that he said in his post about certain things... all I can say is what E.T. once said...OUCH!

Round 15

Abracadizzle has just come out of his corner swinging...will this fight ever end?

In the hustling world I'm just suppose to mind my business of which I will do...just don't knock out the referee (me).


Respectfully

Doc
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Doc, you may be right...Mr. Dizzle may be Sal! The recent comments concerning Steve Forte makes me wonder. Plus, I believe he mentioned the Cincinnati area...I believe Sals lives just across the river in Kentucky.

Mr. Dizzle...are you in the Cinci area? I use to live in Western Hills many years ago. Lots of interesting games up in that area of town.

Anyway, it would be interesting to know! Smile

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Partial paraphrase from Jason England comment
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On 2006-03-11 20:29, Abracadizzle wrote:
Let me set you straight on something,sport. And let me make myself crystal clear. Steve Forte is the best in the world. The person that you have been conversating with couldn't be a pimple on Steve's @#!. Both of you put together are not enough to even cast a shadow on Steve. In the interest of not being ban from this forum, I will not even scrape the surface of how strongly I feel about your ignorant comment. I hope everyone with any amount of sense or knowledge will set this piece of trash straight.


Do you really want me to try and set this straight if so please let me know?


Respectfully,

Doc
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DOC,

Perhaps one day....

Dizzle bo Bizzle,

Down boy.... I said, "in ways." Go ahead and call Mr. Forte and ask him if he is the best in the world at everything he can do. I promise you, and anyone else here who knows the man will agree with me here, that Steve himself would tell you that he is not the best at every move he can do.

Furthermore, you have no idea in what ways I meant to say that my associate is better, or has a greater status than these guys. Once again, you have jumped the gun.

For the record's sake, let's get something straight. I think that Forte is a legend in his own time. Forget about how well he can do the moves, anyone can sit around for long enough and perfect a move to the point of absolute beauty. If that is what you want to do with your life, then fine, do it. What impresses me the most about Steve is the life he has lead and the accomplishments he has made along the way. Speaking in terms of overall knowledge, Steve is the BEST hands down. Certainly, this statement would not be complete if I did not acknowledge that some of his moves (plenty of them, really) still make me quiver. He is good, this is an undeniable fact. What impresses me about Steve, once again and finally, is his vast knowledge of sleight-of-hand, cheating, gambling, etc.... I sure do hope that he opens his museum soon. Too, bad he squared up!

Dizzle, my main bizzle, if you want to call me trash, that's fine. I have been called worse things by higher class folks. At any rate, the statements that you made, along with the insults that you issued in tandem with them are empty and based on totally false assumptions. Then again, that's about par for the course isn't it Bizzle?

DOC,
PM me about what you read in between the lines. I can't wait to hear about it! Perhaps we have worked the same rooms before! Perhaps we will in the future....

CC
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On 2006-03-11 21:06, card cheat wrote:
DOC,
PM me about what you read in between the lines. I can't wait to hear about it! Perhaps we have worked the same rooms before! Perhaps we will in the future....

CC


CC I'm not sure about what you mean but if it's what I think I can't do that...why? Because both of you are my friends. I see nothing wrong with two men voicing their opinions about what they believe to be true. We (us men) do it all the time and after we finish getting out our frustrations we calm down and go back to being cool again.

I once read somewhere that Silence is Golden so on that note I need to mind my business so I can remain both of ya'll's friend. I learned not to burn any bridges and I won't start now.

Signed Both of Ya'll's Friend

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I think that there might be some misunderstanding here, DOC.

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CC: You are out of your league. Don't kid yourself into thinking that you can hold a candle to a successful cheat. I have said this before... This is a very, very small world. You never know who may really know who you are and the lies that you tell.
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On 2006-03-11 21:48, Abracadizzle wrote:
CC: You are out of your league. Don't kid yourself into thinking that you can hold a candle to a successful cheat. I have said this before... This is a very, very small world. You never know who may really know who you are and the lies that you tell.


Abracadizzle I hope that I'm reading between the lines wrong and if so I'll just shut up...

1. First off your words are too and I mean TOO STRONG (meaning one in an authoritative position), this means to me that you are an individual who really knows what he talking about and can do what he says he can do.

2. You mentioned in a previous post the word Cincinatti of which I know someone who lives there.

3. You mention Mike Tyson an idol of that same person that lives there.

4. You mention " 8 decks and Any Information" in one of your post a favorite word that that same person often uses who lives there.

5. You talk about Steve Forte as if you really know more than you should know about him of which nothing is wrong with that and that same person also lives in Cincinatti.

6. And quiet as kept you seem without words to be able to hold your own meaning that you can handle yourself. This same person gives off that persona that lives in that same place.

My Conclusion is and I hope that I'm wrong on this....IS THAT YOU ARE NO OTHER THAN "SAL" HIMSELF TALKING TO US and CC accidentally said something that made you go off.

Again if I'm wrong this won't be the first nor the last time I am.


Respectfuly

Signed

The Doctor

P,S, The only reason I said this is because you said let somebody here tell him so I took a wild guess.
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To Abracadizzle and CC

This is your referee speaking, due to a unanimous decision this fight (discussion) is declared to be a draw in other words fellas please chill out. Both of you are players, one may be okay in one area and one may be okay in another but a player is a player no matter what level he plays at.

I hope none of you have been offended.

Your Friend

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So, you know me? Interesting.

If you did know me you wouldn't be calling me a liar.

DOC,
I'll bow out of this, no problem. Truth be told it has been a time wasting activity since it's commencement.

CC
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Fix!

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If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.

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What would be interesting about me knowing who you are? You tell great stories, but that is where it ends. Invited to be a dealer at another game? Why? IF you truly blend in with all of the other players, then what would make you stand out enough to be asked to deal at a game? I could list countless other inaccuracies in your stories but that would be stating what is obvious to everyone else. Why peek if you can stack and why stack if you can peek... and why... WHY would you deal a second if you can stack? We deserve the truth CC! Just tell us that you still live at home and cheat occassionaly while playing Pokemon. Find some new people to perpetrate your lies upon.
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On 2006-03-11 23:30, Abracadizzle wrote:
What would be interesting about me knowing who you are?

Well, you continue to allude to the possibility that you know me. I simply think it would be interesting to see you clarify this.

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On 2006-03-11 23:30, Abracadizzle wrote:
You tell great stories....

Thanks! I must admit, though, I have been rather fond of yours.

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Invited to be a dealer at another game? Why? IF you truly blend in with all of the other players, then what would make you stand out enough to be asked to deal at a game?

Well, the fact is that I have a nice, friendly way about me (but you already knew that.) Even though I displayed no more, and certainly no less, manual dexterity than the others at the tournament, I did know the rules of the game better than the director of it.

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I could list countless other inaccuracies in your stories but that would be stating what is obvious to everyone else.

Well, I wish you would state your discoveries.

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Why peek if you can stack and why stack if you can peek... and why... WHY would you deal a second if you can stack?

Well, Wizzle, it's funny that a man of your, ahem, expertise would ask such a question. Let's look at some possible scenarios, this should be fun:

Why peek if you can stack?

Well, let's say that I spot a pair of Jacks and stack them up for the cutter. After I deal the cards, I get the signal from my man that he got pocket Js. Now, my job, is to see if I can get another Jack to hit the board (preferably the flop.) This is why I would peek even though I can stack. Someone as "knowledgeable" and as "experienced" as yourself already knew that though, and I am sure that this is why you asked the brilliant question that you did. Let's answer your other brilliant questions.

Why stack if you can peek?
That's a pretty weak question, man. Stacking is what gives you good cards, and peeking is what tells you what cards are coming. Think....

Now, for my favorite question of all:

and why... WHY would you deal a second if you can stack?
Remember the Jacks from the example above that we stacked up for the cutter? Good. Let's go back to the peeking part.

You peek and see that the top card is a Jack. What do you do? Burn the card that you want to hit the flop? No. You second deal the burn card and plant the Jack on the flop. Let's look at another example:

You culled, stacked and successfully dealt your cutter pocket Js. Now, as you check your own hole cards, you peek the deck. Let's say you are really getting after it and you go three, maybe four cards into the top of the deck. You see, from the top card down, 6,J,J. This means, if you have been following along, that your partner would hit quads. What do you do? Well, I imagine you would most likely let the two Jacks hit the flop. Me, I second deal one of those Jacks and let the other one hit. Quads can set fire to a scam real quick; too noticeable.

These are just several examples, I am sure that I have answered your question.

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We deserve the truth CC! Just tell us that you still live at home and cheat occassionaly while playing Pokemon. Find some new people to perpetrate your lies upon.

Alright, alright! But only this once, and ONLY because I am (deep down inside) afraid of you. Here we go (let me know how I do:)

I live at home and cheat, occasionaly, while playing Pokemon.

Sorry Dizzle bo Bizzle, I just couldn't bring myself to misspell "occasionaly", like you did.

CC
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I would just like to say, that if Doc got the person right, then Doc's in the wrong business. He shouldn't be playing cards, he should be a detective.

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My Conclusion is and I hope that I'm wrong on this....IS THAT YOU ARE NO OTHER THAN "SAL" HIMSELF

Which would mean that he is posting under both the names “Abracadizzle” and “Mook.”
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Well.

If the same person is posting under the name "Mook", as well as Abracawhatever, then I am really shocked. Mook and I have had some nice conversations in the past and seems to be cool with me.

Something does not add up.

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In the interest of a healthy marriage, I'm going to keep quiet. I think we all had a good time. CC: I don't mean this as a jab or with any sarcasm... don't take yourself too seriously.. I'll do the same. Thanks for the fun, all.
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And never addressed the issue of whether he was Sal or not...ignored my post and Doc's. Inquiring minds want to know...

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