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On 2007-04-12 17:39, Vandy Grift wrote:
LOL! I was wondering if you were ever going to revisit this thread. No harm, no foul.


I was working my way to it! LOL
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Hi Vandy,

In answer to your question 'How do you get the spectator to cut at the fight spots?' there are at least two methods. In one, the top card of each packet is forced. This is the approach taken by Bill Malone and John Bannon. Poker Players Picnic from RRTCM achieves something similar but with a different presentation. The only ace cutting routine I know where the spectator genuinely cuts to three of the aces is in Andrew Wimhursts 'The Spectator Estimates the Aces'. The price of this wonderful effect is the element of risk involved.

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Hey Paul, Thanks.


I was replying specifically to the post I quoted. And I was replying (as I'm wont to do) in a smart ass fashion. The fact of the matter is that you can't let the spectator cut to the aces in Sal Piacentes Ace Cutting Routine. I was trying to point that out by asking that question.
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Hocus-Pocus is selling an effect called "Breather" by Roger Lovins'
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Hi Vandy,

Duh! and duh! again. Its all becoming clear. I think I'm suffering from too many Easter egg's.

Best

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Hey Paul,

At least you answered a question that was actually asked. I answered one that didn't exist!

-Carlos
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Sorry guys. I just can't help busting chops. It's a sickness. I'm working on it! LOL
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My vote goes to Directed Verdict by John Bannon. I love the Kurtz overhand shuffle set up! Has anyone ever tried this plot with a four way force deck? Might work!

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On 2007-04-13 11:45, merlin5150 wrote:
Hocus-Pocus is selling an effect called "Breather" by Roger Lovins'



Breather is a pretty visual effect from Rodger Lovins......but the spectator doesn't turn over the aces; the magician does. However, the spectator does have a free choice in cutting the deck, but it's the magician who ends up with all the aces. You can see a demo of it right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtR4XAuuITk
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Hey Jeff,

Nice.

I think that Larry Jenning's has a similiar idea in his "Always Cut the Cards" effect. Additionally, Mick Ayres has a couple of very similar effects (Cut Poker from his book Carpe Chartaes and Cut Poker II from his Bamboozlings eBook).

-Carlos
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Bloody hell! I ask a simple question and look at what happens: I get all my reading, practice, and book buying sorted out for at least the next five years!

Thanks, fellas, but now that Paul has reminded me of Poker Players' Picnic I'm beginning to think it's not such a bad trick after all...

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Oh wow!! THAT'S the one I want to learn! That is quite simply brilliant and exactly the stuff the people I perform for go for. Is it difficult? I couldn't see much going on there at all!
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Oh, thanks for the nice compliment. It's my SCA from my DVD "Impact". (it's also in my Simply Devastating lecture notes). I'm really glad you like it.

... and it's not tough at all.
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I have both sets of Michael's notes, and this routine is exactly what it looks like- a commercial, fairly simple, DIRECT method to have the spectators cut to an ace.

They cut, and they can even turn over the cards!

The reason there was nothing to see? There was nothing to see!

If you liked the video, you should definitely purchase the notes

Michael, when's your next DVD coming out?

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Michael,

How long ago did you come up with this effect? I ask because I took magic lessons in the 90's and, as far as I can tell, I learned this exact effect and have always wondered who came up with it.

-Carlos
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The effect is basically Marlo's, but Michael has some subtleties and handling changes that make allow it to "hit" virtually every time (which the Marlo one doesn't).

The Marlo one is the same sequence four times, but each time the odds of the spectator missing increases.

Michael's handling for the third one, specifically, is gold.
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Yeah, not familiar with the Marlo version (that is, don't remember reading it). Most likely I skipped over it because I didn't like how it read (to be honest).

The version I learned is very similar, even up to the third step, where it diverges. I really like the way Michael sets up the 3rd and 4th reveal. The version I learned is 100% amenable to the third one and I like the use of the CD f***e in the fourth stage.

Really excellent thinking, thanks for sharing.

-Carlos
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Thanks guys. It's Marlo's easy estimation aces, with some touches. I've changed up the handling to make it a sca effect, with 100% hits on the third and forth phase. The DVD also has a way of getting into the effect from Aronson stack.
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There seems to be few versions that are still rather underground and more convincing than anything mentioned so far in this threat. I saw one version few weeks back at nordic magic convention. 3 spectators just cut the deck and turned over the top cards of their packets with magician as well and all were aces. No shuffling, side steals or passes to reposit aces. Just cut, cut, cut and all turn over their top cards. In rights hands 100% but not for amateurs I would say. Still you cant get any cleaner than that. Its not published or at least I think so but the main method is quite recently published at least on one DVD. I don't dare to say more than ingenious. Made a big smirk on my face when I saw it.
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