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Wouldn't it be interesting is someone could hack into the signal of the pocket cams in the World Series of Poker? Think of the possibilities....
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How do you know it hasnt been done?? lol
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There was a baccarat casino scam, pulled in Australia not long ago. A video cam was placed into a ladies hand bag. The dealer did an open kind of shuffle which exposed the sequence to the cam and then the dealer did a Zarrow, I think. The lady with the handbag went up to her hotel room where she wrote the sequence down on a note, came back and passed the note to a guy still playing at the table. The scam netted $4 Million in a matter of minuets and he got away with the money.
That was the good news. The bad was this:
Some time latter after the casino had the eye in sky tape analysed by experts which exposed the false shuffle. The dealer, who was a young girl, was the only one caught, She admitted it, and said she had been paid a mere $20,000 for her part in the scam. She did about one month jail time. She never gave up any names or would not testify against the others.
The casino did name the guy who won but without her evidence they could not prove he had done anything wrong. Something like that any way, I can’t recall all the detail.
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What about putting a secret pocket cam in the dealers position.

When doing a normal shuffle what would that pick up.
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Tommy - The World Game Protection Conference in Las Vegas just showcased/previewed some remarkable mini camera and wireless equipment that can be hidden in dealer vests, chips, pens, cell phones, etc.
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Not hard at all... J, I sent you a PM

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Thanks "The World Game Protection Conference in Las Vegas" this is news to me! So is that open to the public and is it on each year. I will go on a search and see what I can see. Did you see Steve Forte there? Or anything else interesting?
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Tommy, it was going on around or near WMS. Sal Piacente and Forte were both lecturing... Of course, you probably all ready saw that.

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Tommy - It was a marvelous conference. I was there with Sal. He introduced me to Steve Forte, Jim Swain, Richard Marcus, etc. Funny thing, given Richard's new book, I spent some time demonstrating seconds and bottoms for him. Interesting guy with lots of "stories."

The website is:

http://www.worldgameprotection.com/

It was open to the public but very pricey. And, indeed, the title "magician" had an interesting stigma to it. It was far better to be known as a gaming consultant, memory expert, cheat, advantage player, etc.
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On 2006-03-14 14:16, sgrossberg wrote:
Tommy - It was a marvelous conference. I was there with Sal. He introduced me to Steve Forte, Jim Swain, Richard Marcus, etc. Funny thing, given Richard's new book, I spent some time demonstrating seconds and bottoms for him. Interesting guy with lots of "stories."

The website is:

http://www.worldgameprotection.com/

It was open to the public but very pricey. And, indeed, the title "magician" had an interesting stigma to it. It was far better to be known as a gaming consultant, memory expert, cheat, advantage player, etc.


This really says a lot about how some, if not all of the world, sees a magician. I recall reading that Jim Swain was strongly advised to take the "magician" reference off the cover notes of his books due to this so called 'stigma'. And, who is to blame for this sorry state of affairs? Something worth thinking about..isn't it?

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John - While I understand the import of your post, don't forget the context in which "moves" were being presented at this particular conference. Most of the people were there to seriously learn about cheating and how to prevent it from happening in their casinos, among other things, rather than simply to be entertained.
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Hello everyone, I believe the convention was a gaming convention and not just a game protection expo... I was supposed to get sent to the convention, but I couldn't go because of conflicts in scheduling....
John: I totally agree with you regarding the state of the word magician when it comes to gaming consultants.. magicians get laughed at when they try and do a pseudo gambling demos in front of gaming experts and try and push it off as the real thing...yes its entertaining, but it wont get the money... Whats even funnier is when so called magic/gambling expert starts doing demos that's based solely on 5 card stud or draw...
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Sorry Sgroossberg, I misread your post and I didn't see your link... This isn't the same convention I was supposed to attend..
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Wouldn't it be interesting is someone could hack into the signal of the pocket cams in the World Series of Poker? Think of the possibilities....

signal? wouldnt it be hard wired?
you can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all the time but never all of the people all the time.
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But say that you could get into the pocket cams. many many people that made the finial table would take you up on the offer. I mean I doubt any pro would. you would bascly have to have someone make the table that was doing it for this purpose? just a thought
you can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all the time but never all of the people all the time.
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Folks, it is, easier than you may think.

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Better yet it would allow you to hand muck and make other moves if you could freeze your camera. like oceans 11 where they hack the video cameras and it looks empty when real they are not
you can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all the time but never all of the people all the time.
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That looks terrific! Thank you kindly for the info.
Steve Forte, Jim Swain, Richard Marcus, Sal and a camera in a chip! Cool! I could not think of a better day out. Then you got the magic shows, gambling and the women and the boxing, what a place that Vegas is!

How come no told me about Las Vegas before! Smile
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Hard wired is not a problem....if you can't tap into the line you can always read the RF radiation signature and reconstruct the image from the outside of the cable.

But, I never said it would be easy Smile
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