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Jerrine Special user Busking is work. 629 Posts |
City officials passed an ordinance about a month ago to allow street performers to work for tips in downtown Wichita, no licence required, Woo Hoo! Thanks goes to Bruce Blank & Mitch Orebaugh, a.k.a. Pax the Clown, who stumped for the busker law last year.
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Michael J. Douglas Inner circle WV, USA 1645 Posts |
Where would one go to check?
Michael J.
�Believe then, if you please, that I can do strange things.� --from Shakespeare�s �As You Like It� |
atucci Veteran user Middleburg, Florida 381 Posts |
Here’s an article from the Wichita Eagle describing a successful first night of street performing in the downtown area.
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/14239045.htm
Tony Tuccillo
Middleburg, Florida |
Chance Inner circle 1385 Posts |
That's a really great article. Best of luck this summer to all the local buskers!
Chance |
Laird Regular user Kansas City 124 Posts |
Buskers are assetts, not liabilities, lets keep it that way!!!
It's never to late to have a happy childhold!
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Vandy Grift Inner circle Milwaukee 3504 Posts |
I think that's pretty cool. I was wondering...with no license required, are the buskers concerned that they will get a bunch of folks that don't entertain at all, actually driving people away.
I mean, all it takes is one mental patient pounding away on a garbage can and calling it "music" to **** everyone off.
"Get a life dude." -some guy in a magic forum
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atucci Veteran user Middleburg, Florida 381 Posts |
Vandy that's an interesting thought. Does this happen elsewhere? While I'm sure it could happen anywhere, I would think its the exception to the rule. Or is that a bad assumption?
Tom Frank had a link to an article recently describing how street performers police themselves at certain locations in NYC. I'm wondering if this type of behavior amongest the performers would also apply at other locations?
Tony Tuccillo
Middleburg, Florida |
Vandy Grift Inner circle Milwaukee 3504 Posts |
Tony,
I have heard of venues being ruined by this type of thing. I think in many places the workers police each other. But where there is no permits, the real workers have no rights to chase other people away. Espically if they make a big stink about it. If it gets bad the city Fathers have to decide if they are going to try and control the homeless and panhandlers and such, or if they are going to shut he whole thing down. I think sometimes they take the easy, PC way out and just shut it down for everyone. Vandy
"Get a life dude." -some guy in a magic forum
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Chance Inner circle 1385 Posts |
Newsflash! Even if you have permits you have no right to chase anyone off the pitch! Busking permits have nothing at all to do with the quality of an act. Those with permits are no more priviledged than those without one. Not having a busking permit where one is required is not an actionable offense; the legal implications of performing without a permit is like spitting on the sidewalk -- or less even.
The Constitution applies to everyone equally, regardless of professional experience. When excercising your Free Speech rights you are "allowed" to be bad. I mean, what the heck, do we all hit the bricks with great shows after all, or does it take several months, if not years, of practice to get it right? A busking permit does NOT "allow" you to do anything folks! The Constituion already guarantees that right! A busking permit is supposed to merely act as a bookkeeping system which allows the local govt. to collect a VERY modest tax while keeping tabs on how popular the activity is locally. A city that uses the permitting process to audition for "quality" or "family friendly" acts, or use it to weed out other "undsireables" is breaking several federal laws, and violating your Civil Rights at the same time. |
atucci Veteran user Middleburg, Florida 381 Posts |
Hey Chance you're correct, my point is there are some locations where the performers (this is what I've read)have an unwritten 'code'. They look to accommodate each other, rather than trampling over each other.
Here's the link from Tom Frank's blog that talks about how this has worked at NYC's Washington Square's fountain. http://www.fee.org/publications/the-free......aid=1984 By the way, Friday night's performers have received rave reviews in the Wichita Eagle http://www.kansas.com/mld/eagle/entertai......7635.htm
Tony Tuccillo
Middleburg, Florida |
Chance Inner circle 1385 Posts |
Keep those reviews coming! Congratulations to all the local buskers keeping the faith!
What unwritten busking codes there are, are always based on one of two principles: The 1st understands that the street is open to all comers good or bad, and the 2nd one that tries keeping a public street all to themselves. |
magic guy New user Kansas 27 Posts |
WICHITA'S STREET PERFORMER LAW
Basic guide for performers • Musicians, working artists with hand-crafted items or paintings (no T-shirts or mass-produced items), jugglers, mimes, magicians and similar performers. • Must be 16 or have a parent or guardian handy. • No license needed for musicians and performers who are working for tips. • Transient Merchant License needed if you also want to sell CDs of your music or artwork. Rates: $10 a day, $35 a week, $50 a month, $100 for six months. • Stay 10 feet from doorways, intersections, crosswalks, bus stops, parking lots or garages. Performers not allowed on city streets, on private property, at the city bus depot or airport. • Stay 50 feet away from another performer. • Sidewalks must remain passable by pedestrians at all times (4-foot pathway). • Rugs or blankets OK on hard surfaces but not grassy areas. • Someone must be with equipment at all times. No attaching equipment to light poles, benches, signs, trees, etc. No portable stages. • Amplification is allowed if you provide your own source of power. If louder than 80 decibels from 50 feet away, you will be shut down. • Performing hours are 8 a.m. to 10 p.m. :)ed
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Vandy Grift Inner circle Milwaukee 3504 Posts |
Hey it's Ed the magic guy!!
It looks like those are pretty good rules. It shouldn't be too hard to work within those parameters. Good Luck!! Vandy P.S. Chance, I wasn't refering to "bad acts" I was refering more to people that have no act. That just try to work the tip that the busker built. Or sets up next to a worker and ruins it for him with some nonsense. I'm sure no street worker would want a panhandler working his tip.Or creating a distraction nearby. I was definately not refering to workers blocking other workers.
"Get a life dude." -some guy in a magic forum
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2885 Posts |
Would staying 50 feet away from another performer while also managing to stay 10 feet away from all doorways, intersections crosswalks, bus stops and parking garages be difficult?
"...and if you're too afraid of goin' astray, you won't go anywhere." - Granny Weatherwax
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Freewheeler.Ken New user 1 Post |
Way old thread here but hopefully this post will pop it to the top briefly. Google search pointed here with a search for my old pal Mitch Orebaugh. His or someone's magic somehow placed an old old old business card at the top of a card pocket in my portfolio. Go figure. I didn't even know I had a card for Mitch even though he has been a part of retold stories over the years. I see "Moses" morphed into a clown by the time this thread started 5 years ago.
Wondering if "Second chance Moses" is still kicking and well. Freewheeler Ken |
gaddy Inner circle Agent of Chaos 3526 Posts |
Another question this resurrected thread raises- did "Vandy Grift's" fears ever come to fruition? I know Wichita has an awesome busking festival these days, so I'm guessing not...
Any tales from the trenches?
*due to the editorial policies here, words on this site attributed to me cannot necessarily be held to be my own.*
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Christopher Rinaldi Veteran user 347 Posts |
I've lived in the same area for 20 years, not once was there a busker in the whole county in all that time. Four years ago I went out and busked at every street festival, fair and farmers market. I was the ONLY one doing it for four years here. Then last summer, suddenly to my surprise there were musicians busking also, some of these folks caught on to what I was doing, all the musicias were very decent indeed.
Now here we are, just a couple weeks ago I had a couple reports of wannabe "Rappers" doing there thang with a hat on the ground in a small city I perfrom in all the time. From the gossip I heard it wasn't a group but different indiviuals trying to make a buck and was told they certainly looked like druggies....apparently they are catching on also. |
bobn3 Special user Wichita, KS 718 Posts |
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On 2010-11-30 15:22, gaddy wrote: Gaddy, Have not been downtown in Oldtown Wichita for a while. I will check it out and see what is happening. Actually, it is not Wichita that has the Busker festival, it's Lawrence. Bob Phillips |
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