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Joe Mansfield
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I recently acquired a set of multiplying pocket watches. I have not found any markings so I don't know who made them and they did not come with any instructions. The main "holder" is just like the other watches, but is has two metal posts that hold the others in place. There area a total of 9 watches at the conclusion.
I'm having trouble with the handling of the prop. The way the posts are mounted, when you produce a watch, from either hand, the back of the watch would be facing the audience. I have never seen this performed before so I'm staring from scratch.
Does anyone know where I may find some instructions?
Thanks,
Joe
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I have seen a few versions of the pocket watches set, Joe. Could you describe the individual items that you got? I would also like to know the color of the back of the watches too. Your info would help me identify which set I saw before.
Riley
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This isn't really "multiplying" watches.

PM me if you would like the handling for this prop.

Riley
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If you want to see a great preformance check this link out, http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......0&26

Should give you some ideas of how the finished product should look.
Daniel
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The Richard Ross routine you refer to is available for $6000.00. So I don't think this is what he is refering to in his post.

I have never heard of a 9 watch stack. I know of 5 and 7 currently available from the sets sold by Mak-Magic, the come from India, I believe or Tora Magic.
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Bill is right regarding the Ross set. Richard's wife in a joint effort with a craftsman has produced a couple of sets and others are made to order with a few months production time. Bill, the last quote I got on a set was actually $7,500.00. I was a little short that month so I had to pass. Too bad we can't use a 50% of coupon for that purchase. Hehehehe...

I saw a photo of the set that Joe Mansfield speaks of. Very intersting. I initially thought it might be a set of the Tora multiplying pocket watches but the STEMS AND BOWS on the watch are exactly like those of an expensive set.

I have no idea who made this set. The number of watches is also odd. Even if they were meant for the production of say four in each hand, that leaves an odd ninth. An extra and that would of made more sense as you'd have five in each.

It's also possible that this set was sold as five singles (four hanging off each finger and the fifth off the thumb) and the other four were on chains like the Tora watches.

These have a stem and bow that is just like the Richard Ross sets though! It was the first thing I noticed. They also stack nicely compared to the cheapies out there. Sure would like to test drive them.

Not sure what material these are made of, but if a magnet and black gloves were used, they could be used like Tora watches. He'd have to test it for that.

Joe, I'd have to send you a video to show you my handling of the watches. But I only use five produced from one pulled from the vest. The available sets on chains I just can't bare to thrust on an audience as they look nothing like the Richard Ross sets. And unless I can perform the routine with THAT set, I won't bother.

Did you all ever hear of a world famous violinist, who in his death bed, instructed his daughter to open the violin case and tear the backing out. He explained she'd find something there he needed to tell her and the world along with instructions to return it to it's proper place. The violin case contained newspaper clipings of the stolen violin which he played in several countries and before royalty! They were looking at and listening to a stolen stradivarius! Well he saw it as "borrowed" for the duration of his career.

Turned out the guy had stolen the stradivarius violin that he played! It was returned to a museum.

Well, sometimes I have my days where I remind myself to insure I have an expendable ten grand for a set of the watches or I'll have to "BORROW" them from someone....Hehehe.
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I just remembered that one of the 9 watches is a holder. Makes more sense now. Four in each hand maybe? One of the 9 has the posts at the bottom and I don't suppose was intended to be used? But then again, why would they go to the trouble of making the holder to look like all the other watches.

They are European and probably made by a German manufacturer.

One of the old timers will come across this soon enough and tell us exactly what set this is.
Paul Jester
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I guess the holder looks like a watch so you can wear it in view and steal from it.
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Riley
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This is the same as my set. I think they are German, and I know that several UK dealers such as Davenports and Max Andrews sold these in the 1950's.

There is probably a small loop of metal at the 10 o'clock position on the holder watch, for attaching a loop of nylon. Then the watches can be stolen in the "usual manner".

This set was really for production from an "empty" top hat or even a paper bag. They are secretly loaded into the hat and produced one at a time. They look nice if they are then hung on a black display board. The 'holder' is produced last of all.

I have a similar "diminishing" set of three watches, linked together. These are really nice, useable props.

Riley (Old timer Smile)
Bill Hegbli
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On 2006-04-08 18:27, RandyStewart wrote:
Bill is right regarding the Ross set. Richard's wife in a joint effort with a craftsman has produced a couple of sets and others are made to order with a few months production time. Bill, the last quote I got on a set was actually $7,500.00. I was a little short that month so I had to pass. Too bad we can't use a 50% of coupon for that purchase. Hehehehe...



Looks like he varies the price with each quote! I seriously considered this at one time, but by the time I could have had the money he would have changed the price most likely.

What I did not care for was that he did not have any directions except for his 'new' way of watch separation. He only could provide an old video of Richar Ross performing his routine. The routine was not the same as the one I witnessed on television in the 1970's, and this does not include any small or regular size watches, just the jumbo finale watches.

Anyone have a reference for the 9 watch set-up. I am interested in seeing these.
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Can some please provide me a source for the watches?
Thanks
Ken
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We discussed it before: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......forum=10

Check out these watches: http://www.shaunyee.com/english%20genera......0watches

Some watches come with gloves. I never tried those kind before. But they seem interesting.
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Hey Joe,
If you can get those watches to make "multiplying time" , could you send a few extra hours today! Thanks.
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I purchased one of the Tora sets (12 watches and a stand) a while back. Although the instructions allowed you to perform a basic routine, it didn't recommend any additional resources for further watch manipulation. I checked Tarbell and my Routine Manipulations series, but no luck. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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jimmy talksalot
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Theres some work with watches in hugard's magic manual shows you how to manipulate pocket watches
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Quote:
On 2007-02-05 11:20, magicman845 wrote:
I purchased one of the Tora sets (12 watches and a stand) a while back. Although the instructions allowed you to perform a basic routine, it didn't recommend any additional resources for further watch manipulation. I checked Tarbell and my Routine Manipulations series, but no luck. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Kent


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