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In my opinion Restless Plots is Mark Edward's best material.
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And of course, "the haunted book of magic", by jim magus !
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On 2006-04-12 17:21, Harley Newman wrote:

Why do we, as a club of sorts, have lesser ethics than the civilization we live in? (I'm not suggesting that our civilization actually practices those ethics, just that we have them as ideals).


I think it because we have a bunch of bitchy, small-thinking people who don't treat this as an art and their fellow magicians as fellow artists. They think they can only stand above the crowd by stepping on others. That is evident in many of these forums, some of the comments I see are appalling.
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And if Mark is so bad, why are his books so hard to get a hold of! Caramba!
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It'simportant to expose the fakes with their incredible 'powers' - helping out the police to find murder victims etc - what a cruel way to make money
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Do you mean the ARCANA OF BIZARRE MAGICK by Jim Magus, or The Book Of HauntedMagick by Rick Maue. Rick is much taller than Jim, but Jim has much more hair. Smile

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I'm not sure where that came from, or where you are going with that.

I agree with Jim on Restless Plots. I only have the first edition published by Mary Tomich, not the expanded edition that Mark put out, but the material in there is excellent.

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Sorry Tony - I was absent mindedly following on from something up above regarding the John Edwards/Uri Geller types - didn't mean anything against Mark Edwards
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I was just a little confused. Thank you for clarifying.

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Restless Plots is definitely worthwhile to purchase. Mediums Well Done dreals more with the background and some of the performance concerns regarding seances. Interesting reading, but it may not be exactly what you are looking for based on your postings. If you are buying Restless Plots, however, you might want to add Mediums Well Done and Loose Ends to your purchase. You will not be sorry.
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On 2006-04-11 17:25, Harley Newman wrote:
I continue to believe that if we pretend to have powers (and some folks say it's ok within a context of a performance) we're encouraging a kind of dishonesty that the world doesn't need. Maybe I'm stupid. Audience members incorporate some of what we present into their belief system, no matter how many performers deny it.

Is there some kind of insecurity problem these guys have, that makes them need to appear to be something they aren't? Does the audience profit from this? No, they leave with a lie. It's only the performer who profits. We can be gifters of dreams, without being anything other than entertainers.

If a performer's committing fraud, it's still fraud. We can be honest about it, or not. If not, I think, out them.


Harley, it seems you're no longer talking about Mark and whether or not he exposed several mentalist tools on National television (and whether or not he subsequently received fair treatment from the magic community for his actions), and are instead mounting a soapbox with your personal views on the ethics of psychic entertainment.

If that's the case, this is probably the thread you want:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......start=30

By the way, as far as performers appearing to be something they're not -- that's Bizarre Magick to the core (which is the section we're posting in). One of its founding tenents is that effects be presented with the gravity and conviction of reality. It places the audience, at times, in the uncomfortable situation of having to sort out its own ideas about the known and the unknown. Andruzzi didn't let people off the hook with "it's just a trick." Does that make everything he created fair game?

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Some facts: The tv show in question was "Psychic Secrets Revealed" aired on 5/26/03. Mark Edward was one of the presenters. He was showing how people such as John Edward (no relation) was reading people in the audience using "color-coded" chairs and information from aides before the show.

The other presenters exposed much more harmful secrets.

In my opinion, Mark was raked over the coals unfairly and wish that people would welcome him into the fold again.

I do agree that "Restless Plots" is a fantastic book as well as his self published one for advanced seance work, "Sense and Seance".
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Yes restless pots is very good. I bought it in the end, based on the views expressed on this thread. thanks guys.
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In my experience, Mark has never left the fold. While he has been targeted by a few, he remains loved and appreciated by most who know his name, and rightfully so.
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On 2006-04-10 19:45, Clifford the Red wrote:
I don't know about that. He has worked with Penn & Teller on the show "********" to demonstrate the fraud of John Edwards.


I wouldn't call John Edwards a fraud. I would call him an unsuccessful vice-presidential candidate.

John Edward is a different matter.
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I've heard that John Edward is quite the ballroom dancer.
Don't know how you could fake that.

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My personal experiences with Mark have been nothing but positive. I love his thinking, Love Restless Plots, I have the hardbound edition.
Mark has a very entertaining Mentalism show and his walk around magic is top notch.

I know that there was “something” that happened to cause him to fall out of favor with the Castle…

The only reason I no longer have contact with Mark is that I left LA and have lost contact with a lot of friends…because I am crap at keeping in touch…

Bottom line, I have always like Mark, his magic and his writing.
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On 2006-08-26 23:29, Bill Palmer wrote:
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On 2006-04-10 19:45, Clifford the Red wrote:
I don't know about that. He has worked with Penn & Teller on the show "********" to demonstrate the fraud of John Edwards.


I wouldn't call John Edwards a fraud. I would call him an unsuccessful vice-presidential candidate.

John Edward is a different matter.



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Does anyone remember the name of the movie where Steve Martin played a revivalist preacher using John Edward type 'readings' to scam his flock? So long since anyone saw it I could probably copy everything in it and become a millionaire faith healing evangelist.

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But the "readings" were nothing like John Edward. They were directly out of the Peter Popoff workbook.

I have a different nominee for entertainer of the year, but we are not allowed to get into politics.

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