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Muckey Spleen New user 83 Posts |
As my friend Bob Brown is fond of saying, "the first time's entertainment; the second time's education!"
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The One Veteran user 325 Posts |
First Time it's magic... Second time its a puzzle
I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end...
I came here... To tell you how this is going to begin. |
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Amazing Magic Co Inner circle 1711 Posts |
When you say, over and over again, I am assuming you are asking about tricks with no reset. For these I use: Die Ciefer, Various Rope tricks, Linkng Rings, Fire wallet with QuadraFxex and Executive Pen, Any Card to Wallet, Midas Cups, Quarter thru Soda Can, etc.
Dan. |
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Tom Jorgenson Inner circle LOOSE ANGLES, CALIFORNIA 4451 Posts |
"The Trick That Fooled Einstein' is one that is more impossible when done repeatedly...as in 2, maybe 3 times to either the same person, or the same group, different folks each. Use decorative stones you get in the HOME Department at Target or KMart or WallyWorld. A nice bag to hold them, and a clip for your belt, and you have a nice little story-telling impossibility that begs to be repeated.
We dance an invisible dance to music they cannot hear.
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evolve629 Inner circle A stack of 3838 Posts |
Jackpot Coins!
One hundred percent of the shots you don't take don't go in - Wayne Gretzky
My favorite part is putting the gaffs in the spectators hands...it gives you that warm fuzzy feeling inside! - Bob Kohler |
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Christopher Williams Inner circle Portsmouth, UK 4464 Posts |
A trick should never been shown twice to the same person. First time they are caught off guard and don't know what to expect, they are amazed first time around. If you repeat, they tend to try and see what is going on and try figure it out. The magicians most valuable tool is being always ahead of their spectator, but if they have seen the trick, they know what is coming up and the magician loses that advantage
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jrundgren New user wisconsin 19 Posts |
Quarter through can, sinful is not good over and over again, liquid metal is not, actually I cant think of one that I know of. I work in a liquor store with a bar. I try to time it so the same people don't see the same things , but that doesn't always work, ive had the same people with a signed quarter and can waiting for me, I try to avoid that, though I havent been busted yet. I would say only if you have to. make sure the people have your full!! attention the first time you do it, to avoid being asked to do it again
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JSBLOOM Inner circle 2024 Posts |
If you are performing for same audience at different times,
TRIPLE VISION is a very clean prediction of 3 cards where the ending can be differnt each and everytime you perform Regeals diabolical trick. |
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Julie Inner circle 3936 Posts |
Great repeatable coin effect= 2 copper/1 silver or his brother> copper/silver/brass.
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Roki Special user London 749 Posts |
I think a repeatable trick is a great asset . When a huge excitement is developed and they are focused it is great to utilise this .
However I would say don't do the exact same trick twice . Do an even better version the second time with a different method . So there attention actually misdirects them . Red hot Mamma has to be the all time classic in my view .They are looking for the method but it is already finished !! As an impromptu a few variations on liar/ truth games is a great repeat . Mental effects with a variety of methods are great for building a whole story of what you are really doing .You appear to repeat but change the method to cover your trail . If you have a great effect you could precede it with a similar simpler effect that builds interest in the plot but completely misdirects for the main effect. |
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boinko Elite user Illinois 427 Posts |
Maybe something like Bannon's 'Degrees of Freedom.' Depending on how you present it, it could be less and "effect" and more of a "stunt" (although I hate that word).
I mean, you wouldn't want to repeat it over and over, but because of its nature -- and if the audience is patient -- you could certainly do it several times and play up the "unrandom nature of random patterns" or whatever. I do it to myself every once in a while just to see that, yeah, it still works -- and it's still pretty cool. |
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Ian_B New user 92 Posts |
Ultimate Three Card Monte.... You go through three diferent phases.
Twisted Sisters Penomenon M-5 (Stopping the watch and other cool pk effects) |
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bobn3 Special user Wichita, KS 718 Posts |
Hi mdb,
I can understand the connotation of the original question. Repeating a trick once would possibly be ok. If that is what you meant, then the heading should have been "best trick that can be performed again." Stating the heading of the tread as "... again and again" implies performing the same trick three or more times for the same audience. Who would want to subject their audience to that? Bob Phillips |
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Mago Gregorio Elite user Paris, France 473 Posts |
R Lavand most famous tricks are constructed under a repetition scheme. See his Oil and water (Can't be any slower) or his trick 3 bread crumbs is an undefinite repetition of the same effect. How powerful these tricks are !!
see : http://www.mymagic.com/lavand.htm |
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Keith Jozsef Loyal user 212 Posts |
The great thing about the repetition in Lavand's routines is that IT IS MOTIVATED by the presentation. Repetition for the sake of repetition is performance suicide.
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james-harrington Regular user England 102 Posts |
The only time you should repeat a trick is if you accomplish a few things. You add more conditions to make it more impossible thus strengthening the trick. You change the result slightly to keep the element of suprise. Perhaps add a kicker ending to the end of the series. There must be some sense of progretion throughout the routine. Of course a well structured ACR will accomplish all of these things.
Oh, hopping halves is a good one to repeat... It's nice because it has a kicker and although you're really only vanishing one coin, it appears that you're vanishing two because at that point they are expecting you to have both. I agree with Keith, if there is no reason for it and the trick isn't getting stonger what's the point? Do another trick! I've noticed people often ask to see the same trick twice but it's usually because they were so amazed the first time... the thing is, they don't always realise that you can show them something else that's as amazing or more, than the one they just saw. James |
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Tom Jorgenson Inner circle LOOSE ANGLES, CALIFORNIA 4451 Posts |
Here is a repeatable one that's pretty effective for a lot of reasons on the Fairgrounds:
This season, I am doing up Scarne's Crossed Digit as a handout. I give out, to the kids that ask, 6x10" cards with the instructions on the front. They go off and do the math, fold the card and return. The rejected numbers have been written at the top of the card, the selected target number is secret, folded inside. They show me the card with the rejected numbers on it, I do the math and the Booga-Booga to each of the kids. Repeated trick, bunch of kids, but each kid gets it done on them, personally. Off they go. I can give out the cards anytime they ask for one, and do the trick anytime they return. They keep the souvineer. Cost: about 2 cents each with my Epson and the $2 Chinese ink cartridges (eBay). It's Buzz and Fluff, but it is also a good way to control a group of rambunctious Puberts AND send them on their way. If this seems like something you'd be able to use, send me a stamped self-addressed 9x12 envelope and I'll send you some samples for you to play with. PM for address.. ...anyway: Scarne's Crossed Digits is a nice repeatable trick.
We dance an invisible dance to music they cannot hear.
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Aubrey de Wet Regular user South Africa, Johannesburg 110 Posts |
What what what???
With this logic most of you seem to imply that a professional strolling magician (to use the term generally) needs to have almost 100 effects per evening. The only way to create a reputation for yourself is to have something repeatable. To paraphrase Richard Osterlind - your magic should be strong enough to withstand repetition in front of the same audience. Is it such a sin to bring a friend along to have them experience the same wonder with you? I would rather work my ass off to achieve that ideal, work on correct misdirection etc. to make something repeatable. This is how reputations are built. On strong, marketable effects. The greats in magic are all able to use the same things for the same people AND STILL ENTHRALL THEM. Sure, surprise is good, but you cannot have everything peppered with surprise. If your magic has to rely on that alone, you will really need thousands of effects down to stay ahead (this is of course how magic companies do so well). At the very least try to come up with one or two alternate handlings for the same effect. Or try and recreate the same plot with another method. Aubrey de Wet |
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MagicoStu New user UK 17 Posts |
Anyone mention the Invisible Deck
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Guillaume Vallée Regular user 118 Posts |
The only thing I've been performing "again and again" with a growing pleasure was ODDS.
But it was not a challenge, it was a game. We really played telepathy and the spectator (in that case my wife) didn't tried to get the method but just enjoyed this mental drawing game. I've read on this board that others have had the same experience with ODDS,playing with it for a whole hour just because it's so fun to do, both for the spectator and the performer. Anyway for a professional performance I prefer to use some other, more direct methods for a drawing duplication. IMO repeating an effect may happen to be nice only in casual situations. I 've also been repeating some "amazing memory" demonstrations with good success |
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