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Michael J. Douglas
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OK, so I've thought about this for a good year and have came up with a couple solutions, but I thought I'd throw it out for y'all to ponder on. I have a 100' Rainbow Streamer Silk that I'd like to produce. I'm not a big fan of boxes, tubes, or pans. Not that I wouldn't consider them, but they seem a bit too gimmicky for me. I'd love some type of bare-handed production. I'm leaning towards a stretching a rope set-up. Anyone have other ideas?
Michael J.
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hugmagic
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Use a silk winder to get it down to a smaller workable size. Then do a variation on the "This" production. (Manufacturing rights reserved).

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Bob Sanders
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The toughest part to deal with on streamers this long is the twisting during the production. It looks awful. The pretty silk just becomes a raggedy rope. "Rolling" them makes it even a greater problem unless you can unroll it like a roll of toilet paper from the outside. That is exactly the opposite of what I would recommend under normal conditions. I recommend pulling from the inside of the roll. Yep! It's going to twist.

Faking it down (naval term for accordion pleating, fancy folds, etc.) gets rid of the twisting. It is also terribly time consuming. So is raising children. You'll have to live with the results forever. How committed are you? (Don't answer that!)

Now you know why a 30-footer is the longest I fool with anymore. Rarely is there enough stage to use all thirty feet. Therefore, I favor multiple productions over one three times as long but no more impressive. The twisting isn't as bad and you can have three impressive productions instead of just one. Set up is much easier.

Now to deal with the trauma of purposefully cutting a good streamer into pieces! I wish you well. Recovery will be slow but you'll live right through it. Sorry, we don't have a 12 step progam for this.

Enjoy your silk magic.

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Michael J. Douglas
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Richard,
Nice way to think "outside the box." Smile

Bob,
Yep, I've thought it may come to that. With all the folds and rolls I've tried, it continues to twist. I've also thought that going thru 100', though an impressive production for other magicians, might become too monotonous for the average audience. But, man would I hate to cut it! I'm not the best seamstress either. I may have to have a service, "Here lies the broken pieces...."

Peter White gave me such a great deal for helping him out at a MagiFest a few years ago - 6"x100' for $90. Even though I had no use for it, I couldn't pass it up!
Michael J.
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hugmagic
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The silk winder will let you produce it from the center like a coil. I remember Johnathon Neal Brown doing something similar (though not as long) over 25 years ago.

Bob has a good point on the stage size. Sometimes even a 25 footer can be too much which is why Tommy Windsor had two sizes of streamers for his Duke's Dye Version.

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Bill Hegbli
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Paul Diamond video on silk magic explains how to use the Rosini Silk Winder and how to produce it so it does not twist. LL Pub sold these tapes and they may be on DVD by now.

Paul Diamond showed how to put everything in a soda can with the top removed, and how to produce it.
Michael J. Douglas
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Hmm, a soda can. Interesting....

I will surely have to look that up.

Thanks guys!
Michael J.
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Bob Sanders
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Michael,

Use a frozen juice concentrate can instead of an aluminum Coke can. The ends are easily removed and it is much less likely to snag your silks. (Of course, money is no object!)

(If you decide to use one from margarita mix, call me first! LOL)

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Jimmy Joza
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Hi, Michael! You could also do this using the Vanishing Coke Can. I'm not certain if you can fit 100 feet but certainly 50-60 feet, depending on the width of your silk. But this can certainly add to the illusion since you can pour a couple of ounces from the can and then begin to produce the streamer. I did this once or twice and it went over quite well. Or how about Line of Silks, Bob, for a variation?

Jimmy
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Regan
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I don't like to use the super-long streamers either. Reset takes too long when I am doing multiple shows. Like Bob Sanders, I think 30' is the longest I am currently using.

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You might consider producing it under a strong blast of air from a powerful (but silent) fan. What are you doing with that old balloon levitation table you bought years ago?
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