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Mikael Eriksson Inner circle None of your business 1064 Posts |
A little question:
I find it very hard to remember numbers by using people, and easier by using objects. Are there others who have found out the same about themselves? Mikael |
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Peter Marucci Inner circle 5389 Posts |
My memory is perfect!
Uh, what was the question, again? |
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Mikael Eriksson Inner circle None of your business 1064 Posts |
Mikael |
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MarkusC New user Australia 14 Posts |
Mikael
I've found remembering numbers by converting them into objects to be very useful. Harry Lorrayne's memory books contain a system, as does Kevin Trudeau's Mega Memory book, although you might not appreciate his conman credentials: web.archive.org |
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
Memory is a complex issue. Some people have strong dominate right side brain function while others have strong left brain functions.
Easy of memory retension hinges on one of them, but I don't remember which one. The brain also stores in pictures, hence the easy way to remember. Also, memory seems to be stored in blocks of three with a retension of seven blocks being the max at one time. Using this grouping methodology things can be remember in larger groups if organized in smaller groups of three. Fruits, Vegatibles, Plants is a group of three, now a sub groups could be 3 red fruits, etc. Developing acrynoms also helps.
Dennis Michael
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BroDavid Inner circle America’s North Coast, Ohio 3176 Posts |
Fellow says to another fellow; "How's your memory?"
Fellow responds; "Real good since I took that memory course a while back." First fellow asks; "What was the name of the course?" Fellow responds; "Hmmm, let me think.... Now what is the name of that red flower with long stems, that is usually given by the dozen? " First fellow answers; "Rose?" Fellow responds again; "Yes!!! That is it! Rose!!!' He then turns to his wife and says; "Rose, honey, what was the name of that memory course I took?" BroDavid
If you stand for nothing, you will fall for anything.
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Ben Simon New user Germany 50 Posts |
[quote]On 2002-12-04 08:36, Mikael Eriksson wrote:
A little question: How does your memory work? Good! :) |
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Mikael Eriksson Inner circle None of your business 1064 Posts |
Isn't there anyone who have any experience about the difficulty of using people?
Mikael |
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clunk_71 New user Burton-on-Trent England 99 Posts |
Only when they forget the card that they chose.
Best regards, Lee
leepalmer@orange.net Only do what your good at....and then everything you do looks good |
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Dennis Michael Inner circle Southern, NJ 5821 Posts |
I have no problem using people to remember. Since my wife remembers everything, I just ask her!
She remembers everything about everybody that was at our wedding 25 years ago. I keep wondering who that good looking guy is next to her at the alter, it sure doesn't look like me...he's not bald, fat and old! In the study of personalities, one characteristic of a person who in "introverted and people oriented" is that they are great listeners and show a tremendous amount of caring for others, remembering names and facts about them is extremely easy. Magicians (as a group) are generally extroverted and like the center of attention they get. Because of this focus "on self" it requires effort to remember names of people.
Dennis Michael
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clunk_71 New user Burton-on-Trent England 99 Posts |
Just add alcohol. It's amazing how the memory span reduces to the span of a goldfish
(about 3 secs I think...I can't remember)
Best regards, Lee
leepalmer@orange.net Only do what your good at....and then everything you do looks good |
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Jeff Chesnut New user Ada, Michigan 56 Posts |
Memory is a very complex process. I remember hearing Jerry Lucas, in one of his seminars, say, "Everyone thinks in pictures." I thought to myself, "That's not true. I rarely think in pictures." After all, what pictures would you use for abstract concepts such as "liberty" or "infinity." I later had a psychologist friend explain that some people are primarily picture thinkers and others are primarily word thinkers. I guess I must be the latter.
Even though a word thinker, I still sometimes use pictures to my advantage. I took a Jerry Lucas memory course in college (Jerry Lucas is the former Hall of Fame basketball player who co-wrote "The Memory Book" with Harry Lorayne.) My grades the next sememster shot through the roof. I don't use it often now, it requires practice, but will use it occasionally. I find it very good for memorizing lists and numbers. The most frequent use I make of it now is memorizing all my PIN numbers. |
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BroDavid Inner circle America’s North Coast, Ohio 3176 Posts |
Memory surely can be enhanced with proper training techniques, and Jeff hit one of the old standby's that used to be required reading in all the sales courses I taught.
There are many tools for personal improvement that people seem to have "forgotten" today. Eveyone seems more preoccupied with ME, than they are intersted in learning how to read others(body language), communciate better(Speaking and Listening Skills), and remember who, what, when and and how (memory training). OK, Rant concluded. Whew! I feel much better now... Guess I will just go back to sleep now...ZZZzzzzzzzzzz.......... BroDavid
If you stand for nothing, you will fall for anything.
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ruiefe Regular user Lisbon 131 Posts |
Dominic O'Brien (Memory World champion for the - I don't remember - time) uses a system picturing very famous people to memorize. I remember - YEEES!! - seeing posts in the Collected Wisdom of Magic Talk about the system
Very funny posts in this thread
Rui Fernandes
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Mikael Eriksson Inner circle None of your business 1064 Posts |
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On 2002-12-10 20:50, ruiefe wrote:Very funny posts in this thread And still no one has replied to my initial question... Mikael |
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Reg Rozee Special user Vancouver, Canada 592 Posts |
Mikael, I have tried a number of different memory systems including the "Mega Memory" course mentioned above. People don't work well as "pegs" or "hooks" for me either, if that is what you are referring to. I find people either too distracting when I know too much about them, or too indistinct when I don't know enough. In the case of numbers, for example, if my "hook" is a particular person the way my mind works I will end up thinking "What number? Is it their age, their birthday, how many movies they have made, or some numeric image I have created and linked to them?" Also, whole people don't really suggest VISUALLY any number other than "1" or "2" (as opposed to parts of people, like a hand that might suggest "5"). With objects, a tree looks like a "1", a glove definitely suggests "5", and goalposts just look like an "11".
I have had success memorizing very long strings of numbers using nothing but rhythm. For example, I memorized 650 decimal places of pi using no system other than rhythms I imposed on the sequence of numbers. For me, the number has a "swing" to it the way I memorized it. This is a little different than individual numbers but you might want to experiment with rhythm or music to see if it helps. -bigwolf {*}
Reality is what doesn't go away when you stop believing in it. -Phillip K. Dick
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Mikael Eriksson Inner circle None of your business 1064 Posts |
bigwolf, thank you, it was what I meant. I personally have no problems remembering what number people are, my problem is that I seem to have a hard time remembering which person was in the association at all! I have a tremendous ability to remember faces, and how people look like, and yet...
Mikael |
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Reg Rozee Special user Vancouver, Canada 592 Posts |
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On 2002-12-11 18:38, Mikael Eriksson wrote: Perhaps some sort of obvious or easy to remember categorization would help, eg. only people you are related to, or went to school with, or work with, etc. Perhaps even different categories for different types of numbers, such as relatives for this type, movie stars for that type, and so on. Just a thought, I haven't tried anything like this personally. -bigwolf {*}
Reality is what doesn't go away when you stop believing in it. -Phillip K. Dick
Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes? -Chico Marx |
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Mikael Eriksson Inner circle None of your business 1064 Posts |
[quote]On 2002-12-12 17:13, bigwolf wrote:
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Perhaps some sort of obvious or easy to remember categorization would help, eg. only people you are related to, or went to school with, or work with, etc. Perhaps even different categories for different types of numbers, such as relatives for this type, movie stars for that type, and so on. Just a thought, I haven't tried anything like this personally. It doesn't help. I just have to accept that people pop up as blurred and fuzzy images when used in associations, and things pop up as crystal-clear images (ok, I exaggerate a little, but you get the picture). I have deserted people as images for this reason. Mikael |
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AndyChil New user UK 35 Posts |
Question: Why do you need to be able to remember numbers as opposed to objects/people ?
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