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Rik Chew
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After buying Buckley's Principles and Deceptions for the coin work, I have now found myself interested in the billiard ball work, and have been using golf balls. What I was wondering was, are they effective, angle-efficient for close up work?
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Sure! Practice and watch your angles! Good luck, let us know how you've worked it out.
Paul Jester
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Argh, stage work's more fun anyway. Work on the billiard balls, but I have to say that for real close-up work your angles are harsh, even with Buckley's take on it, palming 2 balls..., and the body swinging from one side to the other and the vanishing hand (steal) all don't go down particularly well in close-up. But they are great fun, and you'll find stage opportunities as you repertoire grows.
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Yes billard balls are good for close up, you just need to watch the seam from the sh*** and ball. Beside that they are very good and I regularly preform them close up.
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Didn't Oscar Munoz win a Gold Medal using with a close-up ball act?
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Well, your options sure are limited. I would think that using a sh*** would be difficult, as close-up magic is usually pretty uncontrolled when it comes to people walking around you (unless you mean like close up on a stage). Maybe you could do some vanishes to colour-changes and the angles would be OK if you kept the ball in front of your body. Or a lot of ball/silk stuff as the silk would cover angles perfectly. Either way I would keep it short and sweet because any unnatural hand positions due to palming will be quickly picked up on.

Rik Chew
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I shall keep working. At the moment I'm working on palming them, they're a bit different from coins, and I'm trying to adapt some of my coin work for them. What other references are there for this magic, preferably a book with quite a lot in, hopefully not just one chapter?
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This is just my personal opinion, but I don't think pure manipulation effects with billiard balls, cards or cigarettes were ever designed with the close-up worker in mind. These effects are often very angle sensitive and can't play well in a typical close up environment. Although there are exceptions, I find these to be rare.

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Look up "The Feints & Temps of Harry Riser" for some pretty good close-up manipulation with Balls.

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Do you have Tarbell and Mark Wilson's Complete Course?

Alan Munro
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I saw Harry Riser perform with some P&L billiards, close-up, almost 20 years ago. The routine looked great!
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I vaguely remember a lecture video of the German magician "Peki" doing a close up multiplying billiard ball routine, with little red balls. Personally, I wasn't thrilled by the routine. As to whether or not it could be effective for a lay audience, I just don't know.

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Hiya, Sleightly:

I use Multiplying Sponge Balls for strolling work, and hold them horizontally, at just about waist level. Works for other angle-sensitive bits, too. Only children and obnoxious adults will try to look, and you're certainly able to deal with them, eh? Smile

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