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This is just something I came up with that I'd like to share. If this is considered too exposing, please edit/remove. Abbreviations are to make it slightly less obvious to someone not familiar with the terms.
I think this will work best in a slightly noisy environemt. First, vanish the coin, you want the coin to be in the other hand, in CP. show the clean hand empty pointing to it with the other hand then with the pointing hand pull up the sleeve, showing there's nothing up it. turn over your hands, the open one going to pointing, palm down, the other opening up. in this motion MP the coin between them low down,catching it in fingertip rest (see the finishing position of a standard retention vanish), again, show empty, pull up sleeve with dirty hand. "where had it gone? I've no idea" as you move your hands up to shrug your shoulders in the classic "shrug" pose, MP the coin into your shirt pocket. Now finish up your routine, or move onto cards/rings/rubberband whatever floats your boat. I'm not good enough at the sleights to pull this off convincingly, but I only got the whole thing thought of about ten minutes ago. Try it out, tell me what you think. Just thought I'd try to give something back, you guys are very helpful. All the best.
Regards,
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
What do you think about the first published use of the muscle pass?
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Justin N. Miller Inner circle 2457 Posts |
Good idea..but it's been done before. Shoot Ogawa has a very similar sequence and a number of other coin guys do as well.
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Paul Wingham Veteran user Rustington, South Coast, UK 365 Posts |
I was about to say the same thing, although I'm sure there must be so many uses for the muscle pass that are not realised because people give up on it before they can do it.
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-0- New user London 58 Posts |
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On 2006-04-28 13:04, Jonathan Townsend wrote: Jonathan, I presume that's to say "the first published use was exactly that", if not then please enlighten me. I'm sorry if this is old hat, but I've personally only read a few things about the mp (i can do it, but not well enough for "the coin that falls up"). Being as I'd not personally seen this in print before, I thought I'd mention it in case others also didn't know. Do you think I should remove the post instead? Trying not to cause offense to anyone's intelligence here, sorry if it came across like that.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
No offense taken. Looking in Buckley's Principles and Deceptions at the item titled : "THE MUSCLE PASS WITH ONE SILVER DOLLAR" we find it used as a secret transfer (acquitment) used to produce a silver dollar coin.
In 77-78 I was using it as a followup to Marlo's Spider Vanish (the sucker French drop using CP) as a way to clean up my right hand and get the coin into fingerp**m in my left hand. This was written up and published by Harry Lorayne in Apocalypse Magazine a few years later. Others have used the thing to move single and even double coins from hand to hand, and John Cornelius surprised lots of folks with his applications. There is one guy on the café who discovered a wonderful way to pass a coin visually through a glass door using this sleight. Have a look around at what's been done. And by all means keep exploring. If you thought to use the MP as an acquitment on your own, you are likely to do much more of this quality thinking as you explore options. Keep up the good work!
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Art-Fantasy Regular user Australia 169 Posts |
I kinda was playing around with Ammar's wiped clean sleight and thought that I could tranfer the coin from the righth and to left hand in classic palm straight away. Well, Not much to tell the method. I'm sure many people would have figured it out too if you are familiar with Ammar's wiped clean. It is a good way to transfer the coin, I guess before ditching it.
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Rik Chew Special user 538 Posts |
Jay Sankey has a move very similar to this, but without the Muscle Pass. As for the ditch into the pocket, maybe you don't need to MP, just ditch as for say the bob complete coin vanish. Though I maintain the best vanish for a single coin, in either your hands or off a specs hands is the Raven, or a pull.
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-0- New user London 58 Posts |
Jonathan,
I was already aware of the use of the MP to ditch in the shirt pocket, for example, I kind of inferred that it was used to switch hands on the sly, but hadn't read anything, this suggestion was one specific method of doing that. Exam time at university is fantastic for creativity, since the call of procrastination is so strong, I lack the time to practice routines, but playing around with sleights is perfectly fine. I also played with using the MP as part of a coins across, and also as a slight modification to Gregory Wilson's version of the sylvester pitch (which I never could really get the hang of, it seemedwrong to me). Then again the actual pitch video is on the shopping list since it's apparently a lot better. Also, just as a note, I think the person who used the pass to put a coin through a glass door may also have been Cornelius, I'm sure in the video where he teaches TCTFU, he also mentions that effect (i don't have the video, but that's what I've read). All the best to everyone.
Regards,
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Rik Chew Special user 538 Posts |
Just out of interest, how many people using the slyvester pitch replace it by using what David Stone calls the 'transfer', seems just as or if not more effective. The move is similar to the move used in Ammar Sonic's Squeeze.
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Art-Fantasy Regular user Australia 169 Posts |
I'm for one using Stone's Transfer that he credits to Ammar.
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