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Billet and NW section is worth the price alone.
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Hello Matt,

I'm sure you will like it very much. I was skeptical before purchasing, because it was written in the sixties, but I didn't regret it at all. Many authors refer to this one, so it's a must have if you like mentalism and mental magic.

Gabor

I was looking on ebay a couple of days ago under mentalism and I was not too surprised to see people selling 'secrets' which were all to be found in Corinda for a lot less money! One thing to remember in the U.S. most magic books are around 40-35 dollars and the average price is under 30. As for the age imho most audiences really don't care how old a trick is, but how well presented it is. Magicians care but most of audience I hope are not magicians!
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Good advice here, as usual! Naturally, I have to speak up for the chapter on mnemonics, which obviously had a large effect on me.

One way I like to use this book is to start working on something until I get stuck, then read Corinda selectively until something snaps and I have many ideas. Other books not to be overlooked for this use are the Fitzke trilogy and Magic and Showmanship by Henning Nelms.

Yours,

Paul
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Ive mentioned in one of my first ever posts here in the forum that I found reading Corinda one of the longest reads ever, but only because I kept going back over and over again and reading then re-reading things!

Corinda was one of the first books I bought in mentalism - on the recommendation of a fellow Café member, and its NOT a book I would ever want to let go of!

The fact that it was written in the 60's makes no difference to the fact that what it teaches is still valid today.

Yes the effects can (and in some cases should) be updated before you use them on todays audiences, BUT the principles are the same in many if not most instances.

Youve heard the phrase the oldies are the goodies? Well it could certainly be applied to Corinda and hey - lets face it - sometimes, the simplest effects (often the older effects) actually come across best!

I also enjoyed Dunningers encyclopedia, because whilst I don't really use anything in it, I REVELLED in reading it in the earlier days JUST BECAUSE of the insight it gave me into HOW things worked, HOW things were performed, and HOW best TO present things.

Again - a bit out of date now, but it certainly gets your mind racing along the lines of working out NEW areas for old effects?

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Don't look to Corinda for best effects. They are all way out of date. Look to Corinday for techniques!
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Not all the effects are "out of date". Many of the effects in those pages may still play as they were originally intended to play. 13 steps is a great tool to figure out what you like and dislike in the world of mentalism. With the material in 13 steps one might not ever need anything else.
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I cannot say what the best effect is in 13 Steps.
I can, however, give my bit of testimony.
I bought Corinda in the early 70's. I read it cover to cover several times.
I still read it and still get new thoughts with each read.
There is one demonstration (trick, effect, whatever) that has been a part of me for over thirty years. It is found on page 315 and is entitled "Gamma Prediction." It is always with me, has never failed me and really appears miraculous.
I have hundreds of demonstrations, but this one in particular has paid for this book a dozen times over.
It is fun. It keeps your brain in gear. And, it amazes.
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I'll re-track my statement. They are not "out of date" as such, but need bringing into a modern context, as with Annemann. As I say, I think Corinda is first-rate for techniques.
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I was skeptical before purchasing, because it was written in the sixties, but I didn't regret it at all.

I read many books that are hundreds of years old. Do not underestimate the value of old books. Just take the principles learned and apply them to the present day situation. People will think you're a genius.
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Cosermann,
How right you are.
I was recently visiting with one of the "Big Name" magicians.
Did a simple effect.
He was baffled.
Straight out of Tarbell.
Priceless.
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Is there such a thing as an "out of date" effect? In my opinion most magic is timeless in a way.
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Best Corinda off the top of my head, mainly because when I started out, Corinda is where I read it first:

Window envelope with nail writer
Pencil Reading one ahead and everything in that chapter is great
Memory stunt
Pocket indexes
Classic blindfold technique
'Great Minds Think Alike' - Punx
Two person codes

Amongst other things

Find what grabs you and then search in those directions in Annemann and more modern writing

Get good at pencil reading and do the memory thing. Both require work but are skills for life. As said by someone else, Corinda is better for skills than effects.
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That mustve been my problem I found Corinda to be a hard read. I need to go back to it.
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Yeah its worth a seond look for sure. I use the CTs and envelopes the most.
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I just bought Corinda two weeks ago now and I can't believe how awesome the Amazing Memory Test is. It took me a few days to memorize the keys, but now I find that every day on the train I try to remember 30 object and then recall them at the end of the day. That so far has been my focus from the book. I look forward to learning more.
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On 2005-10-04 23:35, Parson Gary Smith wrote:
I cannot say what the best effect is in 13 Steps.
I can, however, give my bit of testimony.
I bought Corinda in the early 70's. I read it cover to cover several times.
I still read it and still get new thoughts with each read.
There is one demonstration (trick, effect, whatever) that has been a part of me for over thirty years. It is found on page 315 and is entitled "Gamma Prediction." It is always with me, has never failed me and really appears miraculous.
I have hundreds of demonstrations, but this one in particular has paid for this book a dozen times over.
It is fun. It keeps your brain in gear. And, it amazes.
Peace,
Parson


I think I must be misreading the Gamma Prediction (either that or have a mental block!) Any clues please Parson?

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ML x,

I wish that we were face to face so that I could demonstrate what I do.
Since this is a public forum, I will describe the effect and if you read it in the book, I think that you will understand.

I begin by having the deck thoroughly shuffled.(I sometimes just visit while this is being done, ask someone else to shuffle, etc.)I never rush it or get in a hurry as this is something that will be remembered and talked about.
BTW, I never do this but once in any given situation.

After cards are mixed by someone else, I ask someone to count off a few cards and to not let me know how many they have.
I then ask them to give the same # of cards to another person.
Then I ask him/her to peek at the top card on the deck, memorize that card and place their cards on top of the deck.
At this point, I ask if there is any way that I could know how many cards he had or exactly where the selected card lies in the deck.
Then I MISS.
Everyone assumes that the effect is over.
Spec. #2 returns cards and then the real effect begins.
I will conclude in a PM. Anyone else who is interested, feel free to PM me.
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I just want to go back to what Ian Rowland said, I think that hits the nail on the head regarding this book.
Few magic texts, if any, need be followed to the letter in terms of the patter or extraneous props used (not essential to the actual mechanics of the deception), it is better to personalize the tricks, effects, and routines, to modify them to suit you better - it needn't be an earth shattering change, but changing even one small thing makes it more "you". Often, such modifications also help one to overcome a handling they find particularly difficult or awkward, perhaps even illogical.
A written trick, even a dated one, is perfectly capable of becoming a springboard for something almost totally new, a inspiration for creativity.
13 Steps is a goldmine of information and technique - I think it belongs on every magician's bookshelf, whether they specialize in mentalism or mental magic or not. It's just a classic.
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Yes Mystician,Ian did hit the nail on the head,and you finished it off nicely(great post).Among the most Artistic things any of us can do is:take vintage material;THINK about it;ADJUST it for ourselves;PRESENT it fresh and anew.Nirvana. Rich
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[quote]On 2005-10-09 20:34, Parson Gary Smith wrote:
ML x,

I wish that we were face to face so that I could demonstrate what I do.

Hi Parson!

Me too! When you coming to England?! Smile


Since this is a public forum, I will describe the effect and if you read it in the book, I think that you will understand.


Thanks to your post here and the pm - it is COMPLETELY clear now! Thank You ever so much for taking the time and the trouble to go through it with me - it is VERY much appreciated!

I tried it in front of a few friends last night and it went brilliantly! So simple and yet so effective and the possibilities for spin and variation on the theme are endless aren't they?

Thank you EVER so much...thank you!

Best,
ML x
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