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DerekMerdinyan
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Could someone point me in the direction for learning the single card production Juliana Chen uses? Not the spinning one...

This one looks much like the production often used for producing the 4 aces a la sleight of hand and being able to show the palms clean. i.e. produce bl***, flip hands, repalm... etc.

This production looks much the same although it can be done one handed and, from the look, fairly rapidly.

Jeff McBride teaches a production almost identical to this on one of his tapes, but it appears he is doing too much work behind the palm for this production to look like the same one Juliana Chen did.

I am looking for a name and/or a place to learn it.

If this is Juliana's own thing, then I shall go no further in pursuing this.

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I think you might find that it is peculiar to JC - she can spin them from the same grip!

I couldn't even start to explain it in print and can only suggest that you buy her DVD - should you 'give in', it is a very interesting watch.

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Yes,

You can get her DVD from Stevens Magic. I just got mine yesterday actually and what you're looking to learn is taught on the DVD. As well she also gives the method to single, double, and triple spinning productions from the same palm/grip. You can then alternate from productions to spinning productions. There are some things that in my opinion should be built on from Juliana's production, so be open-minded, don't settle for the exact same handling she uses.

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Same here. I got my DVD last week and if you want to learn her way of production, it is well-worth the money. It is not easy but easier that I thought. Just practice, repeat, repeat, repeat...
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AND HAND STRENGTH... she works out daily to strengthen her hands.
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Thanks, I guess I'll have to check it out!

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I can not stress enough the importance of what Pete just said above. Like anything you do with your body, you simply must train it and exercise it every day. This also means your hands and your fingers. Too many manipulators learn the moves but fail at understanding the importance of exercising and building up flexibility and strength. Thanks for the reminder, Pete.

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Pete's suggestion also reminds me that Juliana Chen has an acrobatic background. She was an amazing acrobatic talent before exploring magic. Her hands were trained and strengthened for years before she tried them at cards. The ankle accident turned into quite a blessing as we've seen.

The lovely lady is delightful to watch and oh, what talent.

Juliana if you read this, you are one hot, gutsy, and commanding talent. Love it!
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Aww man.. Randy... I thought I WAS the one that was hot, gutsy and a commanding talent. hehe =(

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Hi
I don't think that JC uses fanning powder but I do. Does fanning powder stop you doing single card productions? Does the 'grip' of the fanning powder stop the
single card from sliding out easily?
Cheers
TJ
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TJ - you're right, Juliana Chen uses wax.

My experience is that as long as you don't 'drown' the cards in FP,you should still be able to do the single productions. As in most manip type work, it is the practice and the 'knack' that counts most, I think.

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Quote:
On 2007-08-24 05:45, teejay wrote:
Hi
I don't think that JC uses fanning powder but I do. Does fanning powder stop you doing single card productions? Does the 'grip' of the fanning powder stop the
single card from sliding out easily?
Cheers
TJ


No and No are answers to your questions. It is that fanning powder was not available in Asia, so they used wax. Ony practice and becoming familiar with the nature of the cards in your geographical area can you find your answers.

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Hi Dave and W
Thanks for the info.
I want to do fanning manipulations and single card productions using Tarot cards.
Because of the high cost of a deck, I would like to do as much research as possible before experimenting. lol
Can you say if wax is more suitable than fanning powder?
Do you know the type of wax?
Several other threads recommend various types of car and other waxes but also talk about ruining decks particularly using too much fanning powder.
Any advice will be appreciated.
Cheers
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I believe it's 'paraffin wax' and comes in a block like a small piece of soap, but you can buy it from dealers - Stevens Magic in the States is one that stocks it.

I did try with the wax, and found it ok, to a point. The wax does tend to get 'dirty' over a time and then you have to carefully scrape it off and re-apply. I went back to fanning powder (you can get this from most dealers) and haven't looked back, so to say. All I want now is a decent routine!!

Please don't use car wax - I've never heard that before!

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The wax used by the Japanese is plain old candle wax. Just buy those 4" emergency candles in the stores. White color. Run them across the card then work in with your fingers. Both sides. What you are doing is polishing the card. Your fingers will fall off a quarter of the way thru a deck. After you recover, start again. It should take you a week or so the 1st time.

Fanning Powder: Put a quarter teaspoon in a plastic bag, large size. Drop in the cards, twist the bag shut, shake for several minutes. Remove the card and put them in order. Riffle the ends. Shuffle: Overhand, riffle, hindu, etc.

Which do you think is the better method. When powdered decks start to stick due to your finger grease and getting dirty, whip each card with a cotton ball. Re-apply powder as above.

Now, go do it!
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Not all kinds of candles are suitable. Only some are not too dry. Using wrong candles as wax will damage the cards seriously.
Different countries supply different brands of candles. I can't say which is the best.I suggest trying different brands then going for the one you like most.
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Hi Dave, DoveLover and Wmhegbli.
Thanks a lot, it looks like I'll be using fanning powder and using it as suggested.
Cheers
TJ
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Yes, teejay, fanning powder is an excellent suggestion. I have been using it for 30 years and still doing single productions with cards treated with fanning powder.
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Prevent playing cards from sticking by using turtle wax. I did this and it does work. I don't know for how long but they do slide nicely. Check out the link below.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article......ax.htmlI
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WOW, how ironic is that. I NEVER knew that aobut turtle wax.

I wanted to add that I have both the powder AND the wax julian chen uses. when I first started using the wax, it seemed if I didn't get every card covered with the same amount of wax that when I would fan it wouldnt spread uniformly, so I would get gaps. (much worse than if I did a thumb or pressure fan) So I tried the powder and the downside of this was that the cards were now really light, so the design looked faded. (possibly used to much so I tried less the second time and it still looked really faded)

Anyone else run into this? Im sure I shuffled and riffled a bunch to get the access powder out.
...for the 51st time... that is NOT my card...
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