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markparker
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I have not heard that the Circle has the manufacturing rights.
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How would an illusion like the zigzag or anyother illusion become public domain? Is it when the copyright or patend expried? I never really thought of an illusion to become public domain I guess I just figured that just about anyone could reproduce it. I have seen ZigZags on auction sites and some have said it was built using the osbourne plans, and others built by Owen's. Maybe I am missing the point about the build rights. Now building for personal use is ok but if you build from the same plans and then sell the illusion that is wrong?
BYUDAD thanks for the link, I will go and check it out. This is good stuff in here.

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My Zig Zag was built by the famous(in the UK) the late Jack Hughes. But, although Jack had improved it by substituting something more simple than spring blinds, he missed out that 'certain part, described in my copy of 'Magic of Robert Harbin' and it is this secret that makes the illusion look totally impossible.
The other improvement Jack made was to construct the cabinet so it broke down, easily, into 3 sections plus the floor.
Next to Asrah it is still my favourite illusion and best of all you can perform it surrounded.
In my tribute to Dante in 1980 (a repro of his full evening show), I had substituted Zig Zag for Sawing In Half; well Dante himself was always improving his show.
The night it was filmed a little lad in the audience cried out as he could not believe there was a large hole where the lady's middle should have been.
Unfortunately then there were no colour cameras available to the 2 men who videod it, in black & white and tragically (for me) although they filmed every night to get the right angles--they did not keep any of this film. So they did the final video on the last performance, where it went SO well, it over ran by 5 to6 minutes and they ran out of film JUST as the Chinese Water Fountains began!! So I have only coloured stills of this illusion.
I was not told of this till they sent the video, 2 weeks later, after the backcloths had been returned to the hirers & the sets we built had been destroyed. Otherwise if I had known I would have had the Company back in and re videod The Fountains.Then 2 months ago my closest friend(a pro magician) filmed the method--I still had one fountain intact!!Then the DVD was sent to my son in Portugal; he wants to become a professional magician; to preserve Dad's rig & method--totally different to the normal rig.
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Blair Marshall
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I've always loved the Zig Zag, having performed it in shopping malls for many years, on T.V., and VERY close-up. I actually find close-up fools folks even better as they do not have a full view of the entire prop.

Here is one of the units I now have that came with the "ShaZzam!" show, a show which I purchased, it's being being performed by Lee Edwards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cH2W1Prhqg

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I should have mentioned it has the features of Harbin's original, and one or two others that help in performance and in deceptiveness of the effect.

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James FX
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I really enjoyed that, thanks for sharing Blair!
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On 2012-04-28 08:58, Blair Marshall wrote:
I've always loved the Zig Zag, having performed it in shopping malls for many years, on T.V., and VERY close-up. I actually find close-up fools folks even better as they do not have a full view of the entire prop.

Here is one of the units I now have that came with the "ShaZzam!" show, a show which I purchased, it's being being performed by Lee Edwards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cH2W1Prhqg



Blair

Blair, what I especially like about that prop is that there is not a bright chrome strip running along either of the black edges on the face. IMO that contributes to the illusion more than those props that have a chrome strip on the supporting pillar, and much, much more than those that (heaven forbid) also have a matching chrome strip on the right side as well.
Blair Marshall
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Notice that when the center is pulled out that entire area under the top section is black. I've always liked this.

Also, there is no cross bar for the girl to go under when getting in, the blades look wider and bigger that the ones in Harbins' version, not just the handles, the blades are offset as Harbin's but there is also a slight curve to each side of the blade. AND he eliminated one blind on the side the center is pulled out on.

Many units have some of these features, but many only have one or two of them.

Blair
Angelo Carbone
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Guys. Join the Facebook group to discuss the zig zag further. www.facebook.com/groups/zigzagladyillusion
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On Jan 15, 2017, Angelo Carbone wrote:
Guys. Join the Facebook group to discuss the zig zag further. www.facebook.com/groups/zigzagladyillusion


I am a member of this and I can say that this is probably the BEST place on earth for Zig Zag owners and enthusiasts to discuss and fall further in love with the Zig Zag and its rich history. Angelo is doing a GREAT job here with this Facebook page.
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Not that I am biased because I love the Zig Zag Illusion, but I think it's the best group I am a member of. We can discuss the nitty gritty of the Illusion which you can not do elsewhere. It's amazing what photos are shared, what history is shared and what ideas are shared. Love it. Heh heh!
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illusionman2
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I am building a Zig Zag over in the Café Workshop take a look.
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Has the Zig-Zag moved into the 'so old it's new' category? There must be a few generations now that have never seen one performed.

Regarding the history and legitimacy of building one...'Magic' magazine had an in depth article on this illusion a while back, including early piracy condemned by Harbin.
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