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Which effect do you think is best using the Mirror/Stay Stack?
I like Marlo's Matching Routine, looks amazing...
If you can do perfect faros this stack is incredible.
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Check out 'Pairs' in Card Cavalcade II by Jerry Mentzer. It is an excellent trick. But, I'm partial since I came up with it.
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I like Nash's Ovation..great routine.
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I'd second Marlo's Matching Routine.

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Where can any of these be found?
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Check out Allan Ackerman's version of Marlo's routine. It's in his lecture notes; it's by far the best stay stack routine I know.
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Paul Swinford's Seekers routine is worth a look. It can be found in S. Brent Morris's book on the faro shuffle called Magic Tricks, Card Shuffling, and Dynamic Computer Memories.

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On 2006-05-05 11:22, Kjellstrom wrote:
Which effect do you think is best using the Mirror/Stay Stack?
I like Marlo's Matching Routine, looks amazing...
If you can do perfect faros this stack is incredible.


I agree...however, you don't need a perfect faro to do the effect. as long as you can get the majority of the pairs it still works
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O.K. mr. Kjellstrom, I know the mirror stack is that the same as the stay stack? BTW I would love to know more routines for the faro shuffle. I have been practicing this and it is now perfect. I can do a straddle, in, and out faro anytime.

Any help with some routines requiring the faro would be appreciated.
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There is an old manuscript titled "Staggard" which came out at Abbott's. It was performed by Eddie Joseph. If you find a copy you have a winner.
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Doesn't Phil Goldstein have a number of effects based on this in Redivider? Or am I misrecollecting?
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On 2006-05-07 18:55, zombieboy wrote:
Check out Allan Ackerman's version of Marlo's routine. It's in his lecture notes; it's by far the best stay stack routine I know.


Yo can learn this effect from his Faro DVD, Vol. 6:
You can buy it directly from Allan: http://www.allanackerman.com/
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Nash's Ovation, also one of my favorites, can be found on his video set......
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Hello.

"Card Finesse 2" has a few of effects for stay-stack.
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The below is the list of tricks using Cyclic Stack, Stay Stack and partial Stay Stack.

The Arangement by Roy Wlaton, Complete Walton.
Empty and Full by Alex Elmsley, Collected works of Alex Elmsley.
Ghostly Spells by Roy Walton, Five times Five Scotland.
Matching Mix by Peter Duffie, Effortless magic.
Stay Stack Miracle by Edward Marlo, Cardiste No.12.
Mirror Power by Peter Duffie, Effortless Card Magic.
Perfect Matchups by Dave Altman, Card Tircks Galore.
Prediction by Proxy by Alex Elmsley, Collected works of Alex Elmsley.
Rusduck "Stay-Stack" System by Rusduck, Cardiste No.1
Staggering Thoughts by Edward Marlo, New Tops August 1963.
Ten-In-A-Row Double Coincidence by Nick Trost, Linking Ring February 1983.
The Five Torn Cards by Martin Gardner, Riddle of the Sphinx.
Will the Card Match? by Howard Adams+Larry Becker.

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On 2006-05-12 13:26, kerpa wrote:
Doesn't Phil Goldstein have a number of effects based on this in Redivider? Or am I misrecollecting?
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Yes! RedivideR is a great book that deals entirely with the Mirror Stack or Staystack. One good thing about the book is that he gives you a number of utility techniques for using the mirror stack -- shuffles, how to transform a sequential stack into a mirror stack, and so on. There are lots of good ideas for effects using this principle. And the book itself is very cleverly written, with jokes based on verbal palindromes to reflect the "palindrome" nature of the mirror stack. I recommend this book highly.


"Will the Cards Match?" by Larry Becker is a classic effect that uses the mirror stack. There's a lot of information on this trick here on the Café, including many good variations. You can use the Quicksearch feature to find all that information.
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I haven't really dealved into Mirror/Stay stacks, so I have nothing to compare it with, but Roy Walton's "The Arrangment" from Vol.2 is a wonderful/baffling piece of magic.
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I second the marlo matching routine. actually I learnt this from ackerman's dvd vol.6 in the dvd he says that the inventor was alex elmsley if I'm not mistaken
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Additonal ideas are found in Tamariz's Mneumonica.
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Sal Piacente has a cool routine "Sal's Memory Opener" in his Expert Card Magic Lecture Notes DVDs. I saw Sal do this for a bunch of magicians and he literally fried them with this effect. I have used it as well and it is such a strong effect it is SICK! Smile

Stay Stack is really an area that has not been fully exploited in my humble opinion. Someone else mention Redivider by Goldstein/Maven. This is a great little book that has some great (as Harry Lorayne would say) "pathway ideas".

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