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bry1513
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Does every base that Copperfield use/uses come with strict performance rights that only he is able to use them? The only bases I've ever seen sold are your typical beveled base. Are there buliders out there that create bases such as the one used in DC's Voyeur illuison? Although I do like the beveled base I think I'd like a little more variety in the bases that I can purchases and have made. Please share with me any links to builders that sell bases other than the beveled ones. I appreciate any help.

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Jack Murray
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Bryan, if you have a base design in mind contact me for a quote.

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The same goes for if you would like a quote to have a base designed for you.

Hey even better, I'll design it, Jack can build it and it's win win.

All kidding aside, drop me a line if you want to chat.


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Bry1513, one peice of advice, please don't be tempted to copy any of DC's props or unique styled bases. He has very likely spend thousands of Dollars with builders and designers to get those where they are.
Just because he is in the public eye does not make his props public domain.
Get some original designs drawn up by whoever you choose and have them built by a reputable builder of your choice, either way take the ethical route. Invest some money, time and effort into your illusions and you will be rewarded.

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Mark
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I have an idea of a base/table that is used in an upside down postion. My drawings gives the illusions a new look. Has this been done before.

I have made up the plans to be used with an Ashra. The girl/lady is placed on two upright supports which are on a base with wheels. The supports are under her calfs and upper back. It is used as a upside down ashra table. Weird idea huh?

Ray
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I never once said I wanted to copy anyones bases. I just asked if there were others on the market besides a beveled base. Jack and Chris, thanks for your help. Ive PM'd you both.

Take Care,

Bryan
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I don't think you could have made it any more clear .. that you wanted to copy one of Copperfield's bases .. what do you take us for .. idiots??

Give me a break ..

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Dear Bryan,

Many of our times’ great inventions have been designed following the observation of nature.

The black base/aluminium strip look on an illusion base is firmly established in the magical world. In fact that specific look has a deceptive function. However they are by no means a must!

What are the elements to look for when designing an illusion?

There are several elements. The first one would be consistency with your character and your show. Your illusion should blend into the picture you would like to transmit to your audience.

Then there is contemporary design and furniture. Most of David Copperfield's "recent" bases all have that granite or brushed metal look without any additional stripes. I guess it would be safe to state that his inspiration stems from contemporary architecture and design. An earlier example would be his “Attic” illusion. The complete set was harmonious, and the chair, as well as the table, looked like everyday furniture.

Another example would be Nicholas Night's beautiful "Shadow Box". He uses a deceptive base that looks "functional". It is plain wood and is perceived as a simple “table” the elements are resting upon before being assembled.

If the prop has a certain meaning, if the look is right, and if the proportions are right, the whole effect will feel right. In their minds, your spectators should be able to associate your illusion with a piece of existing furniture.

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D
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Well said David.
Bry1513 I wasn't implying you 'would' copy them I was airing a general piece of advice I would give anyone.
As David G said chrome trims...black bases are fine when its condusive to the illusion styling, but some of the more casual approaches work extremely well. Take Brett Daniels' Marilyn, I worked with Brett last year in London and had the opportunity to see this illusion up close....its a haphazard base with paving bricks and wood...but looks great. Good luck
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Thanks Mark, no offense taken or given. Thank you David as well. I should make myself more clear so not to offend the apparently very thin skinned individuals around here. I was not talking about the design or looks of the bases that DC uses, but the techniques they use such as mirrors, lights and BA. I just wondered why builders don't build these types of bases. All I see around are the deceptive bases. I guess this is why this forum is going to pot when a person cant ask a simple question without being jumped on. Thanks for all of the help and as always, take care.

Bryan
Jack Murray
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I don't think ANY of us can "know" what a person is thinking just from a post here!!

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Are there bases/tables with moveable loads? Is so, where can you buy them. I never seen them on any web sites.

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Bry1513,

Most builders when marketing a prop will aim to please as many performing situations possible, preferably surrounded , this is why the usual types of base are seen as widely available. If your performance requirments allow for more creative uses of hiding methods, then explore away...look back over ralph Adams' material he had some great ideas as did Charles Waller.
Most touring performers do not have the luxury of taking there own staging and sets etc, which does limit the type of illusions they can own...to a certain extent.

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Mark
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Mmmm,

Just browing magicauction and found a nice looking table base for an asrah built by Magic Makers. Click the link and scroll down.

http://www.magicauction.com/Mag_auc/illusion.htm

Not seen much of DC's work recently so not sure how the difference in size compares.

Mark
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