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Alex W. Loyal user 211 Posts |
Does anyone know of a way to knock the centre out of a toonie? Right now I'm freezing one; I've heard that works.
Also, can anyone think of a good routine that I could use a centre-less toonie for? I'm thinking maybe a spellbound of some kind... |
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CSStanton Loyal user Suttons Bay, MI 228 Posts |
First application I thought of was a Karate Coin, but it might look 'fishy' to non-familiars with the coin. It could look like you just throw an insert in.
Maybe a routine where you show the insert as well as the outside bit, show that it is like a puzzle, and then switch it out for a real one. Not a strong idea, but you could find somthing to add to it. ...I heard dropping them made it fall out. -Casey |
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KingStardog Inner circle 2134 Posts |
Peter may know. I would think that from freezing a rapid application of heat would also be needed.
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Alex W. Loyal user 211 Posts |
Yeah, I'm going to let it freeze overnight then pour hot water over it.
Well Peter, do you know? |
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Leigh New user Ex-Blighty, now Canada 78 Posts |
How 'bout Troy Hooser's "Charming Chinese Challenge"? Of course you would rename it to "Charming Canadian Challenge."
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Alex W. Loyal user 211 Posts |
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On 2002-12-06 20:59, Leigh wrote: Oh, definitely. BTW, this is my 100th post, eh? I just had an idea! What about a Chinatown Half coin using a centre-less toonie and a Mexican Centavo coin? |
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Andy G Regular user Terra Australis 180 Posts |
I've taken the centre out of 2 pound coins and Euros. Freezing did absolutely nothing, so I knocked it out using a hammer on the coin sitting over the gap between the jaws of a vice. You have to straighten the ring afterwards, and the design on the coin hides the hammer mark n the centre piece, if you're going to use it.
My idea was to rub the coin and have it fall apart instead of bending, and then stick it back together and there would be no way to get it apart again, put people just didn't believe it - it was too impossible and they thought a switch had taken place and it was a trick coin (no matter how good the switch), so it didn't work for me. I had filed the centre so it could go in and out. Anyway spellbound is a nice way of making the centre of the coin disappear, maybe after a vanish reappear sequence. Or you can apparently pull the centre out (spellbound), chuck it away, and then boom it's back in the coin. |
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shawlie New user Netherlands 99 Posts |
I too do a similar trick with a €2 coin. I also knocked the middle out with a hammer and filed it down a bit. I stick a bit of flash paper on the fake and, after the switch with a borrowed coin, "heat" it up with a lighter, causing the middle to fall out. Then that is exchanged with 2 €1 coins, which are returned.
True, it's obviously a switch. But not "too" impossible, I think; I've read of euros that fall apart from just dropping them on the floor. My patter is that they're just not too well made. |
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gtxby33 Veteran user 347 Posts |
You know the substance to clean computers with? Hold the can upside down and spray it on the coin and throw it on the ground....be careful don't let the spray get on you....it's liquid nitrogen or something...hah!...
white hats rule.
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Alex W. Loyal user 211 Posts |
That will knock the centre out?
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Zach Allen Elite user 466 Posts |
I read another post somewhere else in the Café that a technique that worked was to freeze the coin for several hours and then throw it repeatedly against a hard surface until the center falls out. I can't personally testify to this, but several other people in the thread said that this method works. Hope this helps...
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Alex W. Loyal user 211 Posts |
Yeah, I think freezing is the way I'm going to do it... I'm just not sure if my freezer can get the coin cold enough.
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DeadRinger New user long island 55 Posts |
the best way to get the center out of a twoonie that ive found is to use a punch tool, most mechanics have these or an auto parts store.. you just need to gey the correct size.
*POOF*
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MxJoKeR Regular user Nowhere, Oklahoma 173 Posts |
What about an effect where the spectator "breaks" your coin so you have to quit (last effect) you could file at an angle so that it will fit in one side but not the other, You give it to them to hold above a table (with the insert set in so it will fall out if turned upside down) and to drop it on the table when you say go and then they break it. It sounds good to me
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Curtis Kam V.I.P. same as you, plus 3 and enough to make 3498 Posts |
I'm not familiar with the coin, but would it make sense to invert the center bit and then reinsert it? Borrow a Toonie, and cause the inner part to flip over in the spectator's hand? Of do the old bending gag, and then show that it left strange, permanent results.
These seem not to shriek "preparation", or do they?
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Paul Chosse V.I.P. 1955 - 2010 2389 Posts |
Is this a joke? You have got to be kidding! I have no idea what you guys are talking about! Can someone tell me? It sounds like you are saying that there is a way to take a normal piece of negotiable currency and knock the center out of it so it will look like a ring? How is this possible? and with what coins? Is the hole perfectly round? Is this the result of some manufacturing/minting flaw? Seriously, I have never heard of such a thing. Does it work with any American Currency? Has anyone actually done this, or is it one of the many "urban myths" we hear all the time? Please, help! To tell the truth, just the knocking out of the center of a coin, regardless of the method, is as much a trick to me as anything you could do with the coin afterwards!
Best, PSC
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Dr. Jakks Special user 832 Posts |
I am with pchosse....I have done coins on the side for a good while now, only recently getting really interested in diffrent effects and technique's so I guess I am still ameteur at most coin effects(though I think I do 3 Fly prettty well). Is it just a toonie that you can do this too?
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Paul Sherman Inner circle Arlington, VA 1511 Posts |
Paul,
The "toonie" Canadian $2 coin looks a little bit like a subway token. It's gold in the center and silver around the outside. You can see a picture of it here: http://www.mint.ca/en/catalogue/products/6260203 I have no idea if the center CAN be busted out, but if it could, I imagine it would leave a perfect circle. Paul
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dchung Special user Montreal 616 Posts |
Paul, I'm surprised you living in the Boston area (a mere 4 hours from the Canadian border) have never come across the toonie.
As a Canadian, perhaps I should answer this question as the other Paul stated, the toonie coin (2 dollar coin in Canada) actually contains two separate pieces. The inner disk which is a gold-ish colour and the outer ring which is silver. It is the only Canadian coin (so far) that has this property. I can also attest to the fact that the center (we spell it centre in Canada) can be removed. When these coins first came into circulation, there were stories across the Canadian newswire about how these coins were not very good and reporters interviewed people who had coins fall apart on them. Ok, probably a slow news day , but it's always a slow news day in Canada. When they first came out, there was a flaw in the design that allowed the coin to separate if struck hard. The Canadian mint has since fixed the problem. One of my friends has a toonie that has had its centre removed, which he managed to get out by hammering it out. I've played with it and I will admit that you can see the centre has been slightly dented. For more info and a better view of the toonie, look here Cheers, Derrick |
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Maky New user 46 Posts |
http://www.vm.fi/vm/liston/euro.lsp?r=18441&l=en
There you can see euros. Finnish versions. Every EU country has their own version of the coins on the "back" side (can't just remember if its head or tails..) 1 and 2 € are made of 2 different metals. |
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