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Schaden Inner circle Purgatory 1253 Posts |
This was a big waste of money. This is a prop a magi would carry around. Any mentalist can find out the info with a center tear. It isn't very practical because you have to do it in a light area. Handling is very bad because, you have to stair at the case. You can only get small numbers or cards. Forget about trying to "transmit" the info to a spectator like it says. They will find out how the method works. Don't waste your time get the SUC.
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bigplumbz Regular user 127 Posts |
get the SUC???? whats this?
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John Clarkson Special user Santa Barbara, CA 749 Posts |
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On 2002-12-07 08:45, bigplumbz wrote: It's the Sight Unseen Case, marketed by Mark Striving. About the Thought Transmitter. Give yourself an excuse to "stare at it" if you really need to. I have the spectator put a rubber band around it after they have written their thought and drop it into a ZipLock baggie I considerately hold open for them. After they drop the TT into the bag, I have them seal the bag as I hold the TT through the bag (to HELP them, mind you). They then hand the bag to another person to hold who will be the independent person who verifies the accuracy of my declaration about the thought. Actually, I have the SUC and like it a lot. However, it does NOT permit any bigger area for information than the TT.
John D. Clarkson, S.O.B. (Sacred Omphaloskeptic Brotherhood)
Cozener "There is nothing more important to a magician than keeping secrets. Probably because so many of them are Gay." —Peggy, from King of the Hill (Sleight of Hank) |
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Mr Secret-ary Regular user Bath, England 106 Posts |
Pyro, couldn't disagree more. All of the problems you mention are easily surmounted with some thought, and it is an absolutely killer peek. I am proud to say than none other than a certain D Brown esq professed himself newly impressed with the gadget, when I showed him how I used it, and dug his own out of a drawer! I too have and like SUC, but don't think it's suited to the AMAZING effect for a spectator, of them reading MY thought. TT does this perfectly, and that's the effect which first sold it to me.
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charliemagic Special user 545 Posts |
jdclarkson, your routine is exactly the method I have been using.I was shown the handling from Bob Elliot when he came back from a SAM convention a few years ago & used ever since..KILLS!
as far as the SUC, I have it & it (IMHO)it pales next to the TT. With the Zip Lock bag method you can take multiple glimpses in case you miss the first time,with SUC you may have to stare to read what the spectator wrote;I got caught taking too long a look 7 teh spectator knew I was looking at something. I like SUC but... TT is so much better as you had the spectator handle it before & you can have them do so after too. |
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bigplumbz Regular user 127 Posts |
ok,so a spec can also apparant read your thoughts with the TT? sounds interesting...could someone describe this idea for me please?
thanx bryan |
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Garrett Nelson Special user 644 Posts |
It seems like it can be a lot more logical to find a way to look at the Thought Transmitter (I, too, use the rubber band) than to come up with a good reason to have somone write a prediction & tear it up.
Just a thought... |
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Schaden Inner circle Purgatory 1253 Posts |
I still don't agree. A center tear could get the information a lot easier. The one side of the TT looks very fake. You can't use it in dimmed conditions. I guess you can send it to a spectator but it is to hard to convice them that they are seeing the information and not a *****. I would like to see how you present the "send of thought" to a spec. Mr Secretary can you PM me and tell me your presentation?
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amshake Regular user 164 Posts |
again, i have to disagree, I sold the TT for a while at a shop, and as long as you don't make a big deal out of the peek, and it does take practice(something not uncommon between magicians), you can even use it in a dimmed situation of you are aware of what is going on, and use appropriate misdirection!!
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Adam Shake Vice President of the Peoria Magicians Assembly IBM and SAM Member Magic Geek |
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dpe666 Inner circle 2895 Posts |
As I have said before, the Thought Transmitter is a GREAT tool for pre-show work.
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John Clarkson Special user Santa Barbara, CA 749 Posts |
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On 2002-12-07 13:10, charliemagic wrote: Hmmm, I've been around so long I often don't know which ideas are my own and which I have picked up over the years. So, the ZipLockt was Bob Elliot's idea? About the SUC. I hold it up, perpendicular to the floor so that I am staring right at the goodies, put a rubberband around it (to prevent any trickery) and take all the time I need. After the rubber band is on, I toss it aside as though it no longer had any importance ("hot" side down, of course). Later, I remove the band, open the SUC, and have even let another spectator remove the card to "verify" that there the first spectator was not just going along with me to be polite. I am getting about equal reaction to SUC and TT.
John D. Clarkson, S.O.B. (Sacred Omphaloskeptic Brotherhood)
Cozener "There is nothing more important to a magician than keeping secrets. Probably because so many of them are Gay." —Peggy, from King of the Hill (Sleight of Hank) |
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Doug Byrd Veteran user VA 361 Posts |
I introduce the wallet with a rubberband already around it. I have my victim hold their hand out and place the rubberband around their wrist (notice I did not say anything about snapping them). Introduce the wallet and explain my experiment to the victim.
When they are finished and tell me it is closed I take the wallet from their hand with my right index and thumb on the spine only other fingers held out of the way. I bring it up to eye level with the spectator and ask them to take the band off their wrist and and place it around the wallet. This affords me all the time I need to gleen the info. Once they have placed the band I place it back in their hand and have them cover it with their other hand sandwiching it in between. I now make a connection to them by touch the top and bottom of the sandwich with only my middle fingers and looking the victim straight in the eyes do my best reading. This never fails to kill for me. Doug
"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc"
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bigplumbz Regular user 127 Posts |
[quote]On 2002-12-08 08:59, Doug Byrd wrote:
I introduce the wallet with a rubberband already around it. I have my victim hold their hand out and place the rubberband around their wrist. Liking the usage of the word "VICTIM" thats quite cool, poor sods....made me giggle! Bryan |
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Greg Arce Inner circle 6732 Posts |
I love the TT and use it often. For the true mentalist try this, don't try to take a long peek. I just put the wallet away in my top pocket and see what in can in that second it travels there. What if you don't see the whole word? Great. Use the letters you got. What if they drew a picture and you couldn't recognize it? Great. Draw what little you saw or could make out. What if you didn't see all the numbers? Great. Call out the ones you saw and say you can't get the other two because they are not coming in clearly. You're a psychic right? Sometimes it seems better when you don't score a 100%. My best reactions came when I had to scramble for what I saw and just go with it. My presentation is to have them take a trip anywhere on the earth and write down where they went, or who they saw, or if it was an object they were near, or a person, or were they on something or in something. .. Anything! The thrill I get knowing that when I get my peek will be the first time I even have a clue as to what it is makes it all worthwhile. Try giving yourself a little bit of a barricade from the information so you start thinking on your feet. I think any peek devices should be treated this way because it makes you come off as the real thing.
Just my opinion. Greg
One of my favorite quotes: "A critic is a legless man who teaches running."
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charliemagic Special user 545 Posts |
jdclarkson, when you said:
'Hmmm, I've been around so long I often don't know which ideas are my own and which I have picked up over the years. So, the ZipLockt was Bob Elliot's idea?' Sorry if I implied that it was Bob's idea. He was shown it at the SAM convention a few years ago,he did not say who did it. It is a great presentation. |
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Greg Arce Inner circle 6732 Posts |
I just reread the ZipLoc use... Wow! That is brilliant. Although I will continue to use my presentation, do you mind if from time to time I throw in the ZipLoc bag when I do it for a bigger group?
Greg
One of my favorite quotes: "A critic is a legless man who teaches running."
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charliemagic Special user 545 Posts |
Greg Arce,
As far as i am concerned it is 'Public Domain'. Use it & enjoy! |
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Greg Arce Inner circle 6732 Posts |
I like to ask permission so thanks for the use of a great idea.
Greg
One of my favorite quotes: "A critic is a legless man who teaches running."
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Jones New user Liverpool, England 72 Posts |
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On 2002-12-08 17:53, Greg Arce wrote: Thought provoking post Greg. I Don't do much mentalism but you've made me realise that when I do, I'm too "clinical." I once thought I'd missed the peek so I took the TT back out of my pocket and suggested somebody else look after it - turned out I fluffed the second peek and was right first time. I didn't cope with the result very well. Ian |
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yosef_dov Loyal user NYC area 242 Posts |
Greetings...
The first time I saw TT used was like this: spec wrote something, then magi took TT and put it down, and took pen from the spec, concentrating on the pen... then worked up to the "transmitted thought"... EVERYONE watching was CERTAIN the PEN was gimmicked in some way, and people were grabbing at the pen and studying it... NOT a SINGLE person in the crowd thought of looking at the wallet... JN |
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