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I just saw an advertisement for a new Docc Hilford product. I like some of his material, but have also been disappointed on occassion. Therefore, I was wondering if anyone would care to offer a review of this new booklet.

Here’s the blurb:



Jagged Edge by Docc Hilford


The famous author, creator and billet worker, Al Mann said, "You rattled me with your Jagged Edge billet test. It is great and original. I only wish I had it when I wrote The Purloined Thought.

Docc Hilford has taken the simplistic course of the Center Tear and given it a new direction. The Jagged Edge allows the mentalist to know everuything that is written on a list.

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Ten people are asked to think of a past president. Each person must think of a different president. To facilitate this, a small pad of paper is passed among the participants. Checking to make certain that their chosen president has not been listed, each person writes the name they have in mind. If the name is already on the list, the participant selects a different name.

When all ten people have chosen a name, a new person looks over the list and circles one name. The written list is no longer needed so one of the spectators removes the sheet and folds it in quarters. The pad is tossed aside. The mentalist tears the folded paper and throws it away; after all, it was needed only to make certain that no names were duplicated.

The mentalist is now able to look at each person on the list and reveal what name they have in mind!

Beyond this remarkable demonstration, the mentalist asks a member of the audience to open a large envelope they have been holding since before the list was made. Inside is a prediction. It reveals that the mentalist knew what name would be selected by the man who circled a name!

This new billet technique is applicable to endless presentations. In an instant, you will be able to know what was written on the list, who wrote what and which of the list was selected.

If you ever wanted to be able to entertain a large group of people with nothing more that a BORROWED piece of paper, now you can.

The Jagged Edge Has these important features:

* No switching of papers.
* Only one paper is used.
* No carbons in the pad, or anywhere else.
* No peeks, glimpses or quick looks.
* Any paper will work.
* Everything can be borrowed.
* No stolen center.
* Perfectly logical reason for writing the thoughts.
* Every move is natural.
* Entirely new technique.
* Can be used in an endless number of tricks.
* Can be learned in a few minutes.
* Completely one-man.
* Can be used with a spirit medium act.
* Instantly gives three pieces of information: What the 10 to 12 thoughts are, who wrote what, and which thought was selected.

Bonus Material! In this manuscript, you will receive The Phantom Artist, a clever effect by Percy Naldrett that enables you to reveal a thought through an artistic ability.

Published previously, never before has this effect been given such a presentation. An original creation of Docc Hilford for use with The Jagged Edge, and it comes complete with DVD!


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Elliott
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Completely one man? Technically, Docc is correct. But this will only work with Siamese Twins -- and they take turns being the stooge.
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It’s not 100% clear what “completely one-man” means. I prefer effects and techniques that I can not only use for small groups, but also for just one spectator. Based on your comment, it sounds like this may not meet my criteria.

Elsewhere, I read that this is like a CT on Steroids. I don’t tear much, but when I do, I use Barrie Richardson’s method from Act Two (personal preference). For a moment, it sounded like I should consider replacing the Richardson Tear with the apparently easier and superior Jagged Edge. Now, I’m not so sure. I guess I need more information.


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Look out for side show, you may even have it in one of your books.

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Which book can I find it in ?

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On 2006-05-29 08:25, aawb122pm wrote:
Which book can I find it in ?


Probably one based on kid's magic. I'd look into either Volume 1 or 2 of "Tricks for Kids Under the Age of 2"
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The real miracle is getting those toddlers to fill out the cards Smile

Kidding aside, I read that it was published in a periodical called “The New Invocation” and sometimes given away for free with orders of Dance of Shiva.
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I love the "* No stolen center" in the blurb. OK so it's not the center you steal.

Do you want to spend $35 for another center tear routine? There I go, I forgot it’s not the CENTER.

It’s sounds like another “let’s take a routine that has been published and put it out at a high price and tell everyone it’s a brand new concept or revolutionary new technique”.

It sounds like the same effect, I think it was called "side show" printed in the New Invocation. A good routine but hardly worth $35.

I do not own this item and I know Docc has put out some good material over the years but I do think one should take his ads with a bit of skepticism. Just my experience from buying some of his other products that failed to live up to the hype.

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It’s better than people make it out to be. The tear isn’t “instant read”, but a motivated “read” is built into the routine. It’s very nice for groups or stage, but most other CT’s will serve you better for “one on one”. Putting that aside, I definitely got my money’s worth with this one. There were some really excellent ideas.

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I think Docc Hilford sells just about every item that he dreams up on the toilet
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Yes it was called side show and for a period was given out with "the dance of shiva" I know how it work and I never found it to be that big new idea it seem to be sold as. think about "side"show" and you soon get its not a "center"tear
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I was pretty disappointed when I first read the booklet. Jagged Edge wasn’t what I thought it would be and doesn’t do all I thought it would.

Still, the more I think about it, the more I like it.

The technique may not be the world’s greatest, but the included routine is VERY nice. It’s a three punch mind reading bit with a kicker ending. One possibility wasn’t covered in the instructions, but this time, I think I should be able to fill in the blank. Also, I may change the kicker ending, as I’m not very good with arts and crafts. I’ve already begun to think of alternatives.

There are also some very nice ideas in the booklet. They have already proven useful to me.

I own a bunch of stuff from Mr. Hilford. One booklet was fantastic. Another I really liked. Some of the others, well . . .

This one, however, is pretty good. It’s not all it’s cracked up to be, but I like it anyways.

Thanks,

Elliott
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I have mixed feelings about this one. I also think its something that should be given aways as a bonus or put into a book as a filler. My opinion.
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If you save the booklet, you can always use it as toilet paper in case of emergency
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Looking forward of a complete review about this effect.
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If you combine my last 2 posts, you can get a pretty good idea of the Pros and Cons.

The stuff about using the book as “toilet paper” just isn’t true (the book is called Jagged Edge for a reason Smile). I suspect that Mattis was burned by some crappy (no pun intended)products he may have purchased from the author and is judging Jagged Edge based on past experience. Of course, I could be wrong.

The routine isn’t for everyone and, as written, may not even be for me. Still, under the right circumstances it’s quite good. The manuscript also includes ideas that can be applied to other stuff. I’ve already got my money’s worth in this respect.

If you have any specific questions, I’ll do my best to try to answer them.

Thanks,

Elliott
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On 2006-07-15 22:33, ElliottB wrote:

The stuff about using the book as “toilet paper” just isn’t true (the book is called Jagged Edge for a reason Smile). I suspect that Mattis was burned by some crappy (no pun intended)products he may have purchased from the author and is judging Jagged Edge based on past experience. Of course, I could be wrong.

Elliott



I tend to agree. If you don't like any of Docc's material, you are free to say that. But I think "thou dost protest too much". A little goes a long way. Why hang around this thread to just post negative things (over and over)?

I will be the first to say that not all of Docc's effects are "for me", but I think his mentalism ideas are typcially very good. It's his bizarre/magick things that just don't do it for me.

However, I really like: "It's a LuLu". "Cellular Mitosis", "Evoque" and I just bought "Nostrum Necromancy" (and I am pretty sure that I'll like that one).

As far as hyperbole... they're all guilty!

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I don't like the fact that he mentions "no stolen center" in the ad.
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On 2006-08-07 16:23, Jeff Corn wrote:
I don't like the fact that he mentions "no stolen center" in the ad.


Fair enough. Nothing like a technicality.

It's sad that when we read the descriptions of effects these days, we must look for the "loop-hole"

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I don't like the no stolen center in the ad either, but I've used this and it works!

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