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bitterman Inner circle 1189 Posts |
Ok Josh, we'll slow it down so some people can keep up:
Trinket said, 'You obviously have not listened to what I have to say, otherwise you wouldn't have had to make that last jab at Ross.' It has been my experience that blond, white women have grown very accustomed to everyone doing what they say, just because they say it. No fault of their own, just a lot of men fall all over themselves for blond hair. How dare I take a jab at a unashamed plagiarist after Trinket ordered a stop. She is no doubt dedicated to artistic excellence and professionalism as long as everyone does what she says when she says it. Clear enough or must we digress. The point is very simple, pretending that someone else’s comedy is your own, be it on stage, TV, radio, in print, on the street or even on the internet is wrong. I have no problem being disapproved of by body doubles, jingo-istic wheat farmers or anyone else when it comes to calling a plagiarist out. Perhaps if Ross had said something along the lines of ‘My bad. Won’t happen again.’ I would have dropped it, but he unrepentantly went on in several post (some of which were deleted for foul content) about how it was his right to harvest the ‘net for his jokes. Had he pull this ‘stuff’ in my club he would have been handed his derby, and not just verbally. Unlike the ‘magic’ world, the world of comedy doesn’t cotton to cattle thieves. (Sorry, was getting into a western thing there) PS: I catch any of your 'women folk' stealing jokes I'll mock them too, buster.
If you are not cheating, you are only cheating yourself.
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Josh Riel Inner circle of hell 1995 Posts |
It seems to me that YOU are the one who thinks everything hinges on your word such as
Quote: . Are there a lot of men giving you what you want, just because you say it? Hmmm. maybe that isn't the issue at all, maybe we should slow it down.....
Perhaps if Ross had said something along the lines of ‘My bad. Won’t happen again.’ I would have dropped it You made it evident in your post: Quote: that you were listening to Trinket. She stated that you were not. Then you made apparent your ability to perceive someones essence by a picture.
Well said Trinket and I will take it under advisement in the future Were you to mock any of my "women folk" I would sit back and laugh, they do not need my protection.
Magic is doing improbable things with odd items that, under normal circumstances, would be unnessecary and quite often undesirable.
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Josh Riel Inner circle of hell 1995 Posts |
Shall we continue? I am sure we have people here of other ethnicity's, religions, disabilities etc. Should they be here? would that help you make your point?
Or do you have something relevant to add to the "You are a thief, because I said so" argument?
Magic is doing improbable things with odd items that, under normal circumstances, would be unnessecary and quite often undesirable.
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Cory Gallupe Inner circle Nova Scotia, Canada 1272 Posts |
Oh my. This has turned to a war. I think it would just be best if we dropped it. I personally think there is nothing wrong with what ross did. For pete sake he was just making a joke.
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Cory Gallupe Inner circle Nova Scotia, Canada 1272 Posts |
Hmm, I just remembered the name of this thread is "Am I a Bad Boy?" It sounds like he is responding to you...
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bitterman Inner circle 1189 Posts |
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On 2006-05-21 20:22, themagicman101 wrote: No, he was stealing a joke. Why would anyone think this was alright on any level? Josh refuses to face the point of this thread, was Ross a bad boy. he was he was called on it and no matter how hard he tries to make this about race or disability, the fact remains, Ross was a bad boy. By they way, playing the disability card is about a notch, maybe a notch and a half, above playing the race card. I think it was the Denis Leary (who might have ripped this off from Bill Hicks) who said, "Life sucks, Wear a helmet".
If you are not cheating, you are only cheating yourself.
Dutchco is about to put out some new Ebook: DUTCHCO. Get 'em while you can. |
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Micheal Leath Inner circle 1048 Posts |
This entire topic should be deleted. It has gotten blown way out of proportion. Everyone just calm down and take your crazy pills if you've forgotten.
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Cory Gallupe Inner circle Nova Scotia, Canada 1272 Posts |
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On 2006-05-21 21:01, bitterman wrote: What in the WORLD does race and disabilities have to do with ANY of this??? He did say he had a stroke, but if I recall, he wasnt saying it to you regarding the whole "He stole some jokes" thing. Everyone, just CALM DOWN!!!!!! |
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Josh Riel Inner circle of hell 1995 Posts |
Everybody? Crazy pills? I am just enjoying the topic.
I challenge anyone to read this thread and come to any conclusion other than what I have stated. Disability card? You attacked HIS disability! He didn't use his disability as an excuse, his post didn't need an excuse. Ross mentioned his "disability" in passing, Bitterman insulted Ross over it. Bitterman, did you get permission to use the quote from Dennis, or Bill? You, sir are a thief. Hah!
Magic is doing improbable things with odd items that, under normal circumstances, would be unnessecary and quite often undesirable.
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Josh Riel Inner circle of hell 1995 Posts |
I think people are less riled than it would seem. At least I am.
Magic is doing improbable things with odd items that, under normal circumstances, would be unnessecary and quite often undesirable.
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bitterman Inner circle 1189 Posts |
Or bored.
Hicks is dead, Leary busy; but AS I ATTRIBUTED THE QUOTE no permission was necessary. Had I said, 'I was in Wal-mart the other day and I noticed that Life Sucks, Wear a Helmet. Aren't I clever?', then yes, like Ross, I would have been a thief. Ross brought his stroke into the conversation from left field. To me, he was saying, 'I'm not well, so if I steal it's ok'. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but was there another reason for that gripping tale about the stroke? You may have noticed, Josh, I haven't once mentioned your ADD, because that; my friend, would be wrong.
If you are not cheating, you are only cheating yourself.
Dutchco is about to put out some new Ebook: DUTCHCO. Get 'em while you can. |
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Cory Gallupe Inner circle Nova Scotia, Canada 1272 Posts |
Well, you just DID mention his ADD. And, does he even have ADD? Or are you just saying that?
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bitterman Inner circle 1189 Posts |
Sorry, I forgot there were Canadians in the room. I'll be sure to put a after all the jokes so you can enjoy them too.
If you are not cheating, you are only cheating yourself.
Dutchco is about to put out some new Ebook: DUTCHCO. Get 'em while you can. |
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Cory Gallupe Inner circle Nova Scotia, Canada 1272 Posts |
Oh, ok. lol. I get it now...
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Corona Smith Inner circle Airstrip One 1689 Posts |
If only Mcarthy had you on his side Biterman, you americans could have fried a lot more pinkos. Entertaining thread by the way. I will say this Ross has made me laugh out loud before at some of his posts, a rare occasion around here. I have laughed out loud at your posts too. Infact I would wager Ross is funnier when he sticks to his own material. People do tend to cut and paste willy nilly on the net, without due respect to authorship, sometimes the author is not known.
By the way if anyone knows the origin of my quote please tell. Ross has gone very quiet, my guess is, he is embarrased and hiding in a corner with the curtains shut under a duvet, lets go get someone else, whaddya say? Smiley smile (beach boys). Come back Ross...I propose a small wager, lets go up to the funny bit and we'll see who is funnier post for post, Bitterman or Ross, come on it will be a great comedy challenge! One rule, no insults, just funnies, say the word and I'll start the thread. Corona |
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bitterman Inner circle 1189 Posts |
Oooh, a comedy knife fight. I like it
Please note: Eugene McCarthy was a liberal panty waste. He left the job half done, and your quote is from a watered down version of an Arabic Proverb, it's author lost to the sands of time. PS: I feel for anyone just joining this thread. There have been so many deletes that it must be very hard to follow.
If you are not cheating, you are only cheating yourself.
Dutchco is about to put out some new Ebook: DUTCHCO. Get 'em while you can. |
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Corona Smith Inner circle Airstrip One 1689 Posts |
Ok we are just waiting for Ross now.
If he says ok I will start the thread. I propose a subject is chosen by other Café members, I'll go first, and Ross and Bitterman have one post each to say something funny about it (using their own wit and wisdom). We can continue until one of you gives up or have a Café vote, maybe a prize can be offered to the Champ! Come on it will be fun! Corona (watered down eh? Well we can' t all find literate 16th Century peasants to quote). |
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bitterman Inner circle 1189 Posts |
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On 2006-05-22 11:19, Corona Smith wrote: No prizes, please. It cheapens the art, and yes; I keep a literate 16th centruty peasant at hand for just that reason. Had to remove his tongue though. Decorum and all.
If you are not cheating, you are only cheating yourself.
Dutchco is about to put out some new Ebook: DUTCHCO. Get 'em while you can. |
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Cory Gallupe Inner circle Nova Scotia, Canada 1272 Posts |
It looks like the contest has already begun!
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rossmacrae Inner circle Arlington, Virginia 2475 Posts |
I'm still here, but I have no intention of continuing this pie-fight beyond this final word: WOULD YOU FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE LIGHTEN UP?
Of course Bitterman has some valid points, I just don't think they're applicable to THIS argument - this set of funny lines cannot be traced to an original author, it bears all the attributes of something some ordinary Joe posted one day for the heck of it and "set adrift" on the web to spread as good jokes will. A good joke is surely written by someone, but attribution is rarely attached to it - and it will quickly propagate through school lunchrooms and across the bench at bowling alleys, and through Xerox sheets posted in a million office-cubicles with a funny drawing attached, until it lands either on the joke page of READER'S DIGEST (tagged with a submitter's name but never an author's) or on the PLAYBOY'S PARTY JOKES page. If I (or anyone else) had stolen attributable material, something I heard on the TONIGHT show or got from the Carlos Mencia show, or a routine I had copied from a Harry Anderson TV special, and used it in my act or republished it without permission, would have been worthy of condemnation. If you can point to an original author, I will issue a public correction and pay him/her every penny I have deprived him of. But, in my view, it is no sin to pick up a stray and clearly "viral" internet funny, and if I phrased it in a "should I have done this stuff" way so what? The material has fallen into the public arena, and the way I phrased it was a perfectly allowable way of "punching up" the "funny of the week" that's going around. Seriously, what the heck do I get out of it? Nothing! It's just my way of telling a funny story that belongs to no one (yes, some things really do belong to no one). To claim otherwise is disingenuous and priggish. Here, you want to try to tag the joke with an author's name? Google any line from my original post and see if you can find an author: "Results 1 - 10 of about 102 for 'Set up a tent in the camping department and told other shoppers' is what I get. Don't drag out the old "if everyone else is committing a crime it's still not OK for you to do it" argument - this joke is just one more of those things that's being passed around this week and that's just the way some things are Bitterman is a bitter man - he likes rules and he likes to see other people obey his rules as strictly as he forces himself to - and nobody can please him unless they express 100% agreement. He could lower his blood pressure a lot by letting the inconsequential stuff slide. Here, I'll attribute a couple of closing thoughts: "There is no truth that a blockhead could not turn into error." - Vauvenargues "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people are so full of doubts." -Bertrand Russell "If you take yourself too seriously, you are probably missing one of life's little jokes." - Jay Gannett "We are all inclined to judge ourselves by our ideals; others, by their acts." - Harold Nicolson "Ain't I a stinker?" - Bugs Bunny Lighten up, jack. |
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