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This is a fantastic impromptu book test that eliminates all the previous gimmicks and pre show work. I tried this out last night in a pub. There was a large old book case behind the table and got the landlord to select any 3 books.

Absolutly fantastic effect, has anyone else used this ? And what are your thoughts? Smile
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Looch,
Where is this book test written up?
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tarbell vol 4 p192 Smile
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Oh yes....I forgot about this one.

Very early in our carreer, Liz and I used to do this effect. It's the VERY effect that made me swear that I'd never do another book test that had the participant select "a number between 50 and 100..." type thing.

In front of 500 people, the participant, having been given very clear instructions to pick a number between 50 and 100, chose number 41. It was from this silently chosen number that the rest of the "calculation" were made.

You probably know the rest.

If this is your book test of choice, you better confine yourself to doing it in the pubs for friends.

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I would stay away from book tests that involve mathematics, after all you want to maintain consistency (another thread perhaps?) where your level of mind reading ability remains the same and actions are natural (why use a convoluted method to arrive at a page when if you really could do what you claim then opening at any page would be sufficient - a reason why MOABT is seen as the best book test out there). Even if you are doing a book test impromptu then there are other better ways of doing it (see peek performances by Richard Busch).

This doesn't mean that what are essentially math's tricks doesn't have a place in mentalism. I use Reversal as described by Banachek in psychological subtleties and by Richard Busch on his excellent treatise 'Number ... Please ?' on mentalism using numbers (making the math transparent etc). I also use something suggested by Don Marco (if you want to know you'll have to send him a lovely bunch of flowers with a polite note). So maths does have its place (in impromptu mentalism) just not with book tests.

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well i can imagine the ending of your experience with it Smile

however i get around the point with the spec choosing a number btw 1-50 by using a mixture of suggestion and a little play on words to make it innocent

when i actually perform this, it is generally in pubs or with peers, i dont do much stage work, if so i too would probably eliminate it
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I have always felt that the minute you ask a spectator to pick a number to do something else, like find a word from that page or make a mental calculation the mentalism is gone. It looks like what it is a math trick. There is a big difference between "pick a page in the book from between 50 and 100" or "open the book to any page that you desire"
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On 2002-12-08 17:05, tiptophat wrote:
I have always felt that the minute you ask a spectator to pick a number to do something else, like find a word from that page or make a mental calculation the mentalism is gone. It looks like what it is a math trick. There is a big difference between "pick a page in the book from between 50 and 100" or "open the book to any page that you desire"


Wow....I wish I had your wisdom PRIOR to a show in front of 500 people!!

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There are many better book tests then this one.
even too many..
Talk To The Screen. The best effect for professionals
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well some kind person point me in the direction, please

also wording along the lines of "ok select a page number...something under 50 to keep it nice and short" said in an off beat manner eliminates suspicion, well thats what ive found
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Hello Friends:

Since a few months I am doing J. N. Hofzinserďs booktest "THE WORD" (Das Wort). It was invented by Hofzinser ca. 1855. A clear description you will find in the excellent English translation of Hofzinserďs book by Richard Hatch.

Marvelli, a well known German magician, who was the owner of most of Hofzinserďs remaining props decided in 1941 to put this particular booktest on the market again, via the great "Conradi Horster Magic Shop".
The last owner was the late Peter šlsmann, who found in a drawer somewhere in the shop around 30 of these booktests. I bought in 1968 three of them for 25.00 Deutsche Mark (around US $ 12.50) each. One went later to Al Mann. The other two are still in my possesion. Believe me, the trick is a sensation, wherever it is shown.

Hofzinser invented many more tricks with books, which should be modern again even theyďre more than 150 years old! You will find them described in the afore mentioned book.


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I'm always trying to find improptu book
tests(though I think Canasta's is the ulti-
mate).Could you give me a more detailed
description of this one?
Christos
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