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BalukMagic Veteran user Toronto, Canada 319 Posts |
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On 2006-05-25 08:56, Michaelrice wrote: Not from what I can recall, you didn't. I never talked to you about your promo video. |
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NeoMagic Inner circle I have... 2017 Posts |
If it was Mike's video - vs - Mark's... I'd hire Mike.
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rtgreen Inner circle Portland, Oregon 1322 Posts |
What is it that would make you choose Mike?
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Gideon Sylvan Special user Deerfield, IL 541 Posts |
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On 2006-05-25 17:45, NeoMagic wrote: Mark, he is basically saying you need to add live footage. Neither are excellent for promoting though. And no I do not have a million dollar cooperation, I was putting out a scenario.
You know you are a magician when you have boxes full of lecture notes you have never read, but still are excited about going out and buying more.
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NeoMagic Inner circle I have... 2017 Posts |
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On 2006-05-25 18:30, rtgreen wrote: As Gideon indicated, at least Mike's video has some real world, live footage with some positive audience reactions... as opposed to Mark's where he's simply standing in the corner of a studio/room performing for the camera.
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Gideon Sylvan Special user Deerfield, IL 541 Posts |
I recomend people take a look at Billy Wiz's promo video. It is for children's entertainment, but the concepts can be used for all fields.
You know you are a magician when you have boxes full of lecture notes you have never read, but still are excited about going out and buying more.
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
I would say I would have to agree with gideon. A lot of performers do a promo video with the intention of doing stuff that they themsleves feel is fun and cool and hip. They may not mean to,, but in essence the video becomes more a video ofr themsleves instead of being a video for a target group.
When doing any promo video, you really must keep your target market in mind. Find out what their wants and needs are. Find out what solutions you can provide to them and show this through your video. Your video must be a sales tool for you that really helps to sell your services to your intended prospect and get them wanting to take direct action. A good friend of mine is named Scott Sullivan. Scott does promo videos professionally for a living and the guy is just flat out awesome at what he does. he also has a freee forum and information on his site that I found to be very valuable reading material. I would tell anyone here to simply go to his site and start reading. you will gain so much from his words and avice. His website is: http://www.reelsinmotion.com/ Please check it out and read his information. Although he is a good friend of mine, I by no means gain any income or any money by referring people to his site. I do so because I believe in his work and what he does to educate people in video production. Kyle
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BalukMagic Veteran user Toronto, Canada 319 Posts |
Hey Guys,
I know I do not have live footage. This video is about roughly 1 yr old. I am actually in the process of re doing two promos. Adult and kids. With live footage. Posted: May 25, 2006 10:11pm Just a quick note Mike - I looked through MSN History and you left a message saying that you wanted to know how to narrate a video. |
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RickVancouver Special user Vancouver, BC 697 Posts |
Kyle,
It looks like Scott is a student of the Dave Dee marketing fad. hehe I tried both sample videos, but neither one played (when I clicked, they said loading...) and I even waited a few minutes. I was really interested in viewing some professional work. I'll save his site into my Fav's and try again later. Rick
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BalukMagic Veteran user Toronto, Canada 319 Posts |
Rick,
Do you have Windows Media Player? Would you rather use Quicktime? (I also have a quicktime version) |
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RickVancouver Special user Vancouver, BC 697 Posts |
Hi Mark,
I was refering to the promo videos on Scott's site, that weren't working for me. Rick
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NJJ Inner circle 6437 Posts |
http://www.funnybones.com.au/TrickyNick.wmv
http://www.funnybones.com.au/nicholasjjohnson.wmv these are my two that I use. I hope you find them useful. |
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BalukMagic Veteran user Toronto, Canada 319 Posts |
Ok Rick. My bad.
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magicofCurtis Inner circle Los Angeles 2545 Posts |
Honestely,, Both videos are a good start but not good.... These videos will get you booked for birthday parties, nursing homes, and other gigs on that level... But they will not get you booked for tv appearances, theater shows, major corp events, cruise lines, or with suitable booking agents.
Both of the videos had boring intro's.... Nothing entertaining, engaging,,, an no build up..... The Michael rice video had live performances,,, some re-working of video placement would improve such... Also guys,,, never advertise on your website, or video BIRTHDAY PARTIES..... instead state family shows... Family shows meand suitable for all ages... and kids will fall into the section..... Keep working at it guys.. It took me years to devolpe decent promo material and I am still never happy with it... Cheers
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Rick,
Sorry that the samples were not working for you. I would simply send Scott an e-mail and he can walk it through with you to get it working for you to see. Scott is very generous in this regard and is more then willing to help anyone with any problems. His information at his site is simply great and he does some amazing stuff. Kyle
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RickVancouver Special user Vancouver, BC 697 Posts |
Thanks Kyle,
I signed up for Scott's video newsletter and already had the opportunity to ask him a couple "video related" questions (which he promptly answered). He sounds like a good connection to know. Rick
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michaelrice Loyal user Ireland 257 Posts |
Thanks again guys for all your advice. I have edited the video a bit more and here is what I have come up with: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQYzg8y-ptk.
This video still isn't finished and I have to add music to it. Any comments are welcome. When I finish this video it will only be temporary until I get more footage. Mike |
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michaelrice Loyal user Ireland 257 Posts |
Nicholas J. Johnson, Those videos are great. When I get more footage I will try and make a better promo.
Mike |
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rtgreen Inner circle Portland, Oregon 1322 Posts |
Mike,
I'm glad to hear your not getting discouraged with some of the comments being made. You're on the right track - just keep at it and it will be great. Thanks, Richard |
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magic4u02 Eternal Order Philadelphia, PA 15110 Posts |
Rick,
I am glad that scott was able to help you. He is very generous in helping anyone with their video questions or needs and he really is a swell guy who simply knows his stuff better then most do in regards to video work. Tell Him I sent you and that I say hello. =) Any video or marketing material project is one that takes time to figure out and will take a lot of tweaking to get it the right way. The best thing to do is what you are doing now. That is going and seeking advice from others and taking that information and using it to better yourself. Way to go. Kyle
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