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For matrix effects, it sometimes seems a bit strange to whip out a close-up mat "to protect the table" or some such nonsense. It might be better to turn the necessity into a virtue by making the mat the focus of the magic. eg it's a kind of flying carpet that mysteriously transports the coins. With gimmicked matrices, this might even take the heat off the gimmicks.

But to do this convincingly you need a very exotic-looking mat. Short of finding some genuine small oriental carpet, does anyone know of a product that might fit the bill?
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I only perform matrix on a pool table or whenever there is a soft surface.
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With all due respect, I don't see why one would need an exotic-looking mat. Afterall it is not the mat doing the magic, but the magician.

If you still want to "give credits to your magical props" I'd suggest you use exotic cards or exotic coins instead. The mat is supposed to only provide a better surface for the effect IMO.

Persoanlly I'd prefer doing the effect without a mat. Only when the table material doesn't allow me to do the effect (and I still want to do matrix instead of other effects) would I bring out the mat and explain that it simply holds the props better. Because of this I'd prefer a non-exotic mat, preferrably a dark one providing a contrast to the silver coins and colorful card backs =)
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There are small magic carpet like mouse mats available. Do a search on ebay and you'll find plenty of designs.

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Short of finding some genuine small oriental carpet,


Ya, check out CompUSA or on the internet, there are some *GREAT* mousepads that looks like little carpets complete with fringes, and they handle like a normal mouse pad... shanester is right on with that.


On a side note, I think you are overthinking things... While I wouldnt do matrix table hopping, the pad should *not* be noticable, only the magic.

You are a magician, you obvisiously have coins and cards and mats and whatnot, they are your "tools" of the trade... its only a problem if you feel guilty using a pad.
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Thanks for the tips

I don't think I'm overthinking things - I'm trying to come up with a motive for introducing an odd prop, while at the same time thinking of a new matrix plot - matrix routines being notoriously under-plotted and under-motivated. Strikes me as a reasonably creative endeavour.

I remember first time I did the (classic) matrix, I got out a mat and did it - to good effect. Asking spectators later, they told me that they had assumed there was something fishy about the mat. So why not capitalise on that?
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The mat is not a prop, but it is the stage upon which you perform your magic. When the situation presents, a mat can make your performance look more professional.
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I apologize if this question has been asked recently, but what do you use to give silver coins a good shine? I've been using "Nevr-Dull" and it seems to work pretty good, but I'm wondering what else is out there that provides a long lasting shine?
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On 2006-05-29 09:26, Michael Rubinstein wrote:
The mat is not a prop, but it is the stage upon which you perform your magic. When the situation presents, a mat can make your performance look more professional.


I agree - and bow to your vastly superior experience. But I'm wondering whether there might be an alternative, i.e. make it the reason for the effect rather than the stage on which it happens.
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On 2006-05-29 10:44, Mike Gorman wrote:
I apologize if this question has been asked recently, but what do you use to give silver coins a good shine? I've been using "Nevr-Dull" and it seems to work pretty good, but I'm wondering what else is out there that provides a long lasting shine?


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I perform in a restaurants but was recently lucky enough to be a punter when a magician with full tuxedo and a close up matt rolled up to my table, the restaurant we went to was like a down market version of tgi fridays so you can imagine he stood out like a saw thumb... The bottom line is the close up pad looked very odd because as magicians we pretend to be able to do magic but in this case he could apparently only do magic with the aid of a close up mat.

In my opinion the magic we perform should be taylored to the surroundings we perform in and not the other way round.
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As Mike R. says, "it is the stage upon which you perform your magic."

If questioned just, "A trick of this size needs a stage."
Since your laying your props on a table, that had God knows what on it, another reason for a mat is that you don't want to soil your props.

Which would be more suspect, an exotic magic carpet or a solid mat?
The last time I did an impromptu Matrix it was on a carpeted floor.

Hmmm! What could be attached to the coins to make them silent on a hard surface?

Didn't Marlo have a method or two where sliding the coin replaced the pick up moves?
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On 2006-05-29 06:42, zing82 wrote:
I only perform matrix on a pool table or whenever there is a soft surface.


Due to the hard slate beneath the thin felt I always found pool tables to be quite hard to do a matrix on (mostly the pick up)
do you have any special method for this?
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Mike is absolutely correct. It's your stage. For the sake of consistency I would incorporate it as often as possible, eg., laying cards/props on it etc. Another reason to use one (if you can) is it helps define YOUR working space & spec's are somewhat less likely to get grabby in your space than on their table.

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I don't seem to be able to explain what I mean - you all keep telling me how things are traditionally done. Which I know. I am trying to suggest there might be a different way. Never mind. I'll just do it my way.
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On 2006-05-29 05:26, rjenkins wrote:...Short of finding some genuine small oriental carpet, does anyone know of a product that might fit the bill?


These are available. Mousepads that look like carpets.
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On 2006-05-31 10:29, rjenkins wrote:
I don't seem to be able to explain what I mean - you all keep telling me how things are traditionally done. Which I know. I am trying to suggest there might be a different way. Never mind. I'll just do it my way.


That's the way. Smile

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Back to the mousepads...

google silk mousepad carpet

http://www.office1000.com/supplies/mouserug.html

for example
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On 2006-05-29 05:26, rjenkins wrote:
For matrix effects, it sometimes seems a bit strange to whip out a close-up mat "to protect the table" or some such nonsense. It might be better to turn the necessity into a virtue by making the mat the focus of the magic. eg it's a kind of flying carpet that mysteriously transports the coins. With gimmicked matrices, this might even take the heat off the gimmicks.

But to do this convincingly you need a very exotic-looking mat. Short of finding some genuine small oriental carpet, does anyone know of a product that might fit the bill?


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