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On 2006-06-16 03:05, Khopri wrote:

There are some illusions presented that demand the use of someone being "in on it." There's no other way around it.



(emphasis added)

Throw some examples out here, and I'd imagine you'd have a dozen 'no-stooge' methods proposed.

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David

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PS: Regarding CGI, hasn't Criss 'hold-for-edit' Angel already used CGI? I won't say which specific illusion I'm referring to, but I did read the definition of 'Computer Generated Image' as 'a term denoting that computers will be used to generate the full imagery'. Wouldn't this also apply if you were using computers to generate 'empty space' on part of a background?
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I've not read through all these posts, so just ignore this if it's already been brought up.

Is it possible to see "stooges" as "assistants"?

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Throw some examples out here, and I'd imagine you'd have a dozen 'no-stooge' methods proposed.


I think none of his methods require stooges, but he obviously uses them as public looking at the gimmicks (the levitation episode, the vanish episode, the "public" in the pool for the walk on water...), or assistants (levitations again, the girl cut in half , the "deja vu" experiment...).
And they clap, they cheer, they scream ...! It's so ridiculous it's almost embarrassing! Smile
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It is embarrassing. He is not a magician! he is an actor!

nothing new that he discovering.

"the best magic in the last ten years"!

I don't think so.

And this from a respected conjuror.
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On 2006-06-21 21:11, edh wrote:
It is embarrassing. He is not a magician! he is an actor!

nothing new that he discovering.
"the best magic in the last ten years"!
I don't think so.
And this from a respected conjuror.


Your forgot to mention the volunteers AND the audiences are actors as well.

"Ooohhhh...Ah.."

Take Two.....

"Oooooooooohhhhh.......Aaaahhhhhhhhhh"

that's better...print it!

Best,

Tim
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With the latest episode, I liked the one with the beer bottle and the cell phone. I thought his cigarette handling wasn't that great. And I cannot believe he gave away ashes on the palm.
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Ashes on the palm was given away by FOX Television a few years ago.
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On 2006-06-01 12:51, Jazz wrote:
...You´re right, if only she had been outside the barrier, that would have sold the illusion better. Maybe time constraints prevented it? Remember when DC throws and bounces a beachball around to randomly select a spectator?


Hi,
I was one of the lucky ones who caught a beach ball at a DC show in Tallahassee a few years ago and got to go on stage and take part in his finale illusion for the evening, where he levitated 13 of us in a cage and then vanished us while the cage was suspended in the air. Then we all show up at the back of the auditorium waving our flashlights.

The next 15 minutes was spent in a backstage room being 'debriefed', first by one of his assistants, and then by DC himself, who offered us 3 different explanations (all false) of how it worked in case someone cornered us, insisting on wanting to know how it worked. At least we all got a B&W large signed photo of him.

I actually had to be a little 'dishonest' in order to even get on the stage, but I would have said nearly anything to get to be on stage with DC! Each of us who caught the beachball was asked as we were escorted toward the stage if we were "a magician, or with the press". I wanted to be up there so bad that I made myself think that she asked me "are you a magician with the press?", of which I am not, so of course I answered "no". Could that be considered a 'white lie'? ;o)

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On 2006-06-22 02:25, Khopri wrote:
Ashes on the palm was given away by FOX Television a few years ago.


That doesn't make it right for Criss to do it.
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-The secret impresses no one. The trick you use it for is everything.

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On 2006-06-22 02:25, Khopri wrote:
Ashes on the palm was given away by FOX Television a few years ago.

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That doesn't make it right for Criss to do it.



Where is all the outrage over exposure?

Silence...
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The exposure wasn't as bad as how poorly he did one of his consultants, Juke J.'s, idea from Building Blocks about the 'warmth in the hand'. He didn't even try to sell it.
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I've really grown fond of this thread.

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Does using a stooge mean there is no such thing real magic
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I'm not a fan of Angel but I really like the appearing fat woman and midget behind the umbrella.
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On 2006-06-22 15:59, Haverabbitwilltravel wrote:... Could that be considered a 'white lie'?


Perhaps in doing this you cleared the way for more magicians to enjoy participating in DC's shows as volunteers (not acomplices).

If you can keep your word about letting the audience and others you meet enjoy the magic without explaination for the trick in which you participated... good for you.

I'm not gonna ask about the trick.
I will ask some things which may be more useful to all here:
How were you treated by the assistant?
How did you feel as you were briefed for the event?
How did you feel you were treated by the staff during the event
(* NO METHOD DETAILS PLEASE *)
How did you feel after the event?
How did it look like the other participants felt about it?
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Tim, thanks for sharing that old clip. Just fantastic.

I can just conclude: Use stooges for the illusions, but never for the audience!
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