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brettsaunders
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Hi Folks,

I'm pretty new to magic and I've been reading about how some people are sewing magnets into their clothes as coin holdouts. Just wondering is there any other method to deliver coins to your hand in a t-shirt or short-sleeved shirt (other than taking those coins out of your pockets), and is there some sort of a sleveless coin-pull out there (either for shimmed or non-shimmed coins)? I live in hot Australia and would like to see what can be done in short sleeves.

Thanks for your time.

brettsaunders.
Paul Wingham
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You can purchase coin droppers that could be clipped to the inside of a short sleeved shirt, I use this with a waistcoat and it works quite well. you need a little misdirection but not particularly tough to do
Paul Wingham
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You can purchase coin droppers that could be clipped to the inside of a short sleeved shirt, I use this with a waistcoat and it works quite well. you need a little misdirection but not particularly tough to do
boydy
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Stick a magnet in your back pants pocket and stick the coins onto that, then steal as needed. works for me.
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Theres' a sleeveless version application for the Raven, must have a loose fitting shirt. I've played with it.. tricky but works.

I use a M******c hold out and find it very powerful.
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CasualSoul
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On 2006-06-04 12:56, boydy wrote:
Stick a magnet in your back pants pocket and stick the coins onto that, then steal as needed. works for me.


I do this as well. With just a little practice the movement looks completely natural.

Subterfuge is a sleeveless hold-out system that I find invaluable.
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Pachin
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The same missdirection that you need for the holdout you can use it to pull the coins out of you pocket. If you can classic or finger palm a coin and move your hands naturally for awhile then you can go from there even if you are naked. If you are in a stage then yes you can use either the magnet or the hold out. But for walk around or street magic I am not sure how long the coins will stay in their place.

Now if you do not like the idea to put your hands in the pocket as a start then you can hide them under your belt. You can pretend to adust your zipper, your pants or tight your belt before you start and retrieve them from there.
Lawrens Godon
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I recall a manuscript from J.S.Berry, European stars of magic I think, where he developped a device made out reels, allowing you to work sleeveless...
The pull was affixed to your waist band and could bring items to your hand, or the contrary...
This text was in french and produced by George Proust in 1986.
I don't know if this booklet exists in english...
brettsaunders
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Thanks to everyone for the above help. I'm going to look into coin droppers an the "subterfuge magic system" as well. That sleveless reel that lawrens mentioned sounds really interesting. Does anyone know anything more about this J.S. Berry guy's idea? Would love to hear about it. Also, I hear something about an elastic reel attached to the inside of the back pocket and pulled from the front pocket and then let go. Has anyone had any experience with this?

Thanks for any thoughts.

Brett Saunders.
Rob Johnston
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With misdirection you can always pull coins out. I pull a jumbo coin out to complete one of my routines. All with misdirection.
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Ray Haining
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Rob, I do too, but if there is someone standing behind me, they'll usually catch it, although not always, and they will usually not say anything until later.

Misdirection versus technique: I go back and forth about that.

What about the time I produced a jumbo coin, then, as I was walking to the next table, I casually put it back where it came from and someone shouted out, "Now we know where it came from"? Talk about being busted!

By the way, who is Margot Fonteyn? Somebody we should know about?
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A famous Ballerina. BTW didn't the advertising tell you you can't put the coin away while being watched??? Smile
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Just a thought- if you are going to be wearing a t-shirt or short-sleeved shirt, you can probably get away with wearing jeans- get those carpenter style jeans with the slanty-pocket half way down your leg, its usually just where your fingertips are when your hand is dropped to your side. These pockets are usually fairly tight as well, so you can retrieve a stack of five or six half dollars without the slightest sound, and the action for retrieval is completely natural.
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