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BIlly James
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Hi folks,

The cane I've always used is a 2 - piece balck cane, made of wood (can't remember the manufacturer).

If you can imagine that you have the gimmick on and you are completely still (trying to explain without giving too much away here), in this position my wooden cane is 'almost' completely vertical.

However, I recently purchased Precision Magic's aluminium dancing cane and when completely still it tends to lean forward quite a bit, possibly coming close to a 45 degree-ish angle. I'm finding this quite difficult to get used to.

So, my question is this, which of these 2 scenarios is the 'norm'? Do most canes pitch forward like this or are they more like my wooden cane - more upright?

Thanks for your help in advance.

Cheers
Billy
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Uumm well it depends, I have a number of canes I have been performing the effect for years and I have tried alsorts of canes, wood,card,metal,plastic the list is endless. It could indeed be the cane or it could be the length of your gimmick, uumm also it could be that your gimmick is backwards, as opposed to going the right way it may have gone over the top of the cane and is now backwards if y ou get my meaning. The top of the cane could be to heavy. But in answer to your question, no, most of the time the cane does not lean fowards in flight or otherwise.

Hope this helps,

Luke
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RandyStewart
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I wouldn't be so concerned with the position of the cane while stationary as that's not a place the cane will find itself during performance anyway. The question I have for you here is are you able to do all the traditional moves with the cane and then some?

When David constructed these canes, he did so with many of the moves on his video clip in mind.

You may want to contact him at Precision Magic or PM here at the Café as he's an active member. His username is Dmann
Bill Hegbli
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From my experience, the cane will lean forward at the 45 Degree angle. If your cane is properly balanced so if your finger can be placed in exactly the middle of the cane and it balances. The proper placement of the gimmick is 1" up from the balance point.
magic_man204
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I actually like about a centimeter abouve the balance point. it is a lot smoother flight and does better when spun. this is just my personal preference.
Bill Hegbli
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On 2006-06-07 19:35, magic_man204 wrote:
I actually like about a centimeter abouve the balance point. it is a lot smoother flight and does better when spun. this is just my personal preference.


Yes, I am speaking for the standard sold and the placement mentioned by Lewis Ganson in his booklet on the Dancing Cane.
BIlly James
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Thanks everyone for the feedback and advice.

Randy - I don't actually want the cane to be completely still, I just thought this would be a good way to describe the situation I'm facing without giving too much away about the workings of the cane. Smile
In answer to your question - no, I can't seem to do the things with this cane that I can with my other cane. Also, I don't seem to be able to do the things from the dancing cane DVD with this one, however I can with my wooden cane.

wmhegbli and magic_man204 - thanks very much for your helpful advice. I thought that the head of the cane may have been too heavy but I thought I'd fly the question here first of all. I was considering adding weight to the tip of the cane, but your advice about the placement of the gimmick from the balance point is great. I think my wooden cane's gimmick is higher above the balance point than the aluminium cane.

If you have the aluminium cane you will realise that there is a fair bit of fiddling to move the attachment of the gimmick. I love the sleek look of the aluminium cane but I think I might have to banish it to the magic drawer and continue using my 'old faithful' wooden cane.

Thanks again for the advice everyone, it's much appreciated.

Cheers
Billy
Dmann
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Hello,
To answer your question about the tiping of the cane, just put a few Beebees in the bottom of the cane if you want it to be more upright.
Dave
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If you add additional weight to your cane, you may want to wrap the weights in tape before sliding them into the cane. This will keep them from talking.

Personally, I'm having an absolute blast practicing with David's cane. The only real problem I'm having is that sometimes the tip of my cane touches the floor at an inopportune time. This has nothing to do with the cane. It stems from the fact that I'm a little bit on the short side. I just need to learn to compensate for that and everything should be fine.

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Dmann
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You can also wrap the weights in cotton.
RandyStewart
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Not sure if they are still sold but the Fantasio vanishing candles sold as Dancing Canes also came with a weight. By removing the tip that held a silk, you could drop the weight into the ferule, replace the cap, and off you went.

This same idea could be applied to any cane to suit your needs.
magic_man204
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Did you say dancing candle? I am intregued can someone shed some more light on this?
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Does anyone know about the dancing candle?
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