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I watched the second half hour of MINDFREAK last night, and couldn't believe that a full third of the show was taken up with Angel pimping his friends bike shop to get a free chopper. There was no inherent entertainment value to it, Angel was just trading exposure on his TV show for a free bike. It went way beond 'product placement' and became 'plugola', something Star Jones is about to lose her job on THE VIEW for. I have no idea what the FCC rules on cable are, but I would imagine that it is a violation. It certainly was boring to watch. It feels like Angel's ego is getting out of control and he has an attitude that 'I can do anything and the rubes at home will be entertained. Look, I'm riding a bike!'

The rest of the show was ok for an updated version of THAT'S INCREDIBLE, but has anyone else noticed that the theme song has been remixed since season, almost tamed down? I only saw Season One on DVD, so maybe that accounts for the sound difference, but I'd swear they changed it to a softer version. Very telling. Almost prophetic, as they say.
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There is nothing wrong with endorsing someone's product on your show. The FCC wouldnt be involved in this at all. Plugging a product is a time-honored tradition. Do you think guests on Letterman are there because they love his witty sense of humor? They are there to plug their book, movie, agenda, whatever.

And this isn't the first time Angel has done this. He plugged some custom car company to get a his viper cherried-out a few episodes ago. But he made sure to show us a torn and restored bill trick for the entertainment value.
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Don't forget the MARS or SNICKERS bars given to contestants on Survivor as reward! As consumers get better and better at avoiding commercials the shows incorporate more and more into the show. Its nothing new... as its was the way most television was done in the early days.

I didn't see this recent Angel plug as I don't watch the show.
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On 2006-06-15 10:16, bitterman wrote:
I watched the second half hour of MINDFREAK last night, and couldn't believe that a full third of the show was taken up with Angel pimping his friends bike shop to get a free chopper. There was no inherent entertainment value to it, Angel was just trading exposure on his TV show for a free bike. It went way beond 'product placement' and became 'plugola', something Star Jones is about to lose her job on THE VIEW for. I have no idea what the FCC rules on cable are, but I would imagine that it is a violation.


Even if it was on network/non-cable TV, What FCC rule do you think might have been violated? Star Jone may be losing her job over something, but that doesn't mean the FCC is involved there.
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There is a huge difference between going on a show to plug a book, or giving away candy bars and giving the host of a show a custom bike so that he will spend a third of his show promoting your shop. It is called 'plugola' and much like 'payola' it is against the law. Yes, Star Jones did run afoul of the FCC, the IRS and her network when she did the same thing with her wedding. Her contract will not be renewed this September, which is why Rosie O'D. will be joining the show.

"There is nothing wrong with endorsing someone's product on your show"

There is nothing wrong with paid endorsments, but I can't imagine the suits at A&E being too happy if Angel continues to use the show to line his garage for free. I'm sure their national sales manager has a number of clients that would love to pay the network for Angel to shill for them on the show. The network, I'm guessing here, gets nothing from the bike shop; including an entertaining show, which is what they are paying for.
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Payola is the practice of record companies paying money for the broadcast of music that is presented as being part of the normal day's broadcast.

Plugola occurs when you broadcast something of financial interest to yourself, without disclosing that interest.

But if you read the credits, (you know, those tiny little things that flash by at about 1 page per second, compressed into barely-legible type squeezed into the bottom 1/4 of the screen as the network steals extra time to promote its next show) the production gives "special thanks" to Count's Kustoms (along with several other people including Steve and the Magic Café). It seems to me that "Special Thanks" justifies the financial interest.
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It’s too bad such a benevolent person as yourself doesn’t sit on the FCC board. There are reasonable limits to promotional consideration and Angel seems to be rubbing right up against them.

Believe me, I’m all for plugola, payola and all the other -olas you can find. I’m just bummed that I wasn’t in radio back when the new singles would come in with the coke stapled to the A side.

Maybe I’m wrong, but I just didn’t find ‘Chris gets a new bike’ very interesting TV. If the Red Sox hadn’t been getting their derbies handed to them, I wouldn’t have made it through the half hour.
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Look, we can't get rid of that stuff.

I mean, if you take away the plugs, what's next? Taking away all the non-magical and fluff? I mean that would include the lengthy propaganda interviews with his crew, the drawn-out bumpers before a commerical, the extended lead-ins/setups before the effect starts, the performances by real magicians (e.g. Burton, McBride), the many teasers for the finale, etc.

What would be left? About a half a show.

Interviews with him and the crew took up nearly 7 minutes of episode three, a standard 21.5 minute episode (without commercials). By comparison, the 'magic' portions took up 9.75 minutes. The other ~5 minutes was a mix of teasers/bumpers, lead-ins, plug (viper), etc.

I realize bumpers/teasers and the like are part of any TV show, including magic tv shows. But 7 minutes of silly interviews? That's a full third of the episode! Maybe they need ANYTHING, including plug spots just to fill these episodes.

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Get used to it. With more and more viewers recording shows and skipping the commercials, advertising dollars are moving to product placement. We may eventually see commercial-free television, but it will be just like the movies have become, with slo-mo zoom-ins to product logos taking up half the air time.
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Right you are, Airship. I don't even watch Criss in "real time", I TiVo the show and watch it later. That way I can skip all the BS and watch the 10 minutes of magic.

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As someone who works closely on FCC issues, I am not aware of anything that prevents this, other than some wishful thinking on your part.

If your belief is the case, then Queer Eye for the Straight Guy would have been off tv long ago. The whole hour long episodes are nothing but product placement and free giveaways. And it is very blatant.
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Michael,

If you work closely with on FCC issue than I'm sure you are aware of the forms they make radio personalities fill out every year regaurding payola, plugola and the likes. I would imagine that basic cable personalities are held to the same standard. Not sure I caught the meaning of the 'wishful thinking' remark, however you have given me another reason to be glad I've never seen Queer Eye.

How is it you work so closely on the FCC issue, consulting for coffee shops and books stores? You got some people hopped up on the java reading books on the air?
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On 2006-06-15 10:45, Khopri wrote:
There is nothing wrong with endorsing someone's product on your show. The FCC wouldnt be involved in this at all. Plugging a product is a time-honored tradition. Do you think guests on Letterman are there because they love his witty sense of humor? They are there to plug their book, movie, agenda, whatever.

And this isn't the first time Angel has done this. He plugged some custom car company to get a his viper cherried-out a few episodes ago. But he made sure to show us a torn and restored bill trick for the entertainment value.


You're right there is nothing legally wrong with this, but at the same time when your watching letterman or leno you know why there on the show - to plug something.
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I'm watching mindfreak for the magic that's it.


There's magic on Mindfreak?

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I've noticed that advertisers are doing extra things to get around people skipping the commercials. Sprite has a new commercial that includes "subliminal" information that you can only see if you Tivo the commercial and go through it frame-by-frame to spot some special website address. Then people go to the website and they get to look at even more advertising about Sprite. Its pretty ingenious, really.
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There was a television manufacturer that recently announced that they had developed a technology that would disable changing the channel durring the commercials. I don't think it will fly.

Let's see if I can find the link to the article....BRB.

Ahhhh, here is one of the articles: "Philips Wants to Patent Must-See Ads"
http://news.digitaltrends.com/article10144.html
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Michael,

How is it you work so closely on the FCC issue, consulting for coffee shops and books stores? You got some people hopped up on the java reading books on the air?


Where in the world do you get that I am a consultant for book stores and coffee shops? Is this some bitter humor that I am missing????
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What do you expect from Chirs angel? He is tasteless.
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On 2006-06-25 11:53, giochi wrote:
What do you expect from Chirs angel? He is tasteless.


Giochi,

I suspect that there are few Café members here who complain more about Chris' camera tricks passed off live magic performances than I. As against that as I am I don't have any bad feelings about the man himself. I'm sure many think I'm a Blaine/Angel basher but I'm not. I'm a "camera effects as magic" basher. Can we keep personal attacts and insults out of the conversation?

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