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Payne Inner circle Seattle 4571 Posts |
Just got the July editon of MAGIC (Great picture of Cyril on the cover BTW). However the first ad I see in the magazine is for the "Triple Action Super Chair" featuring Option One: Weak Electrical Current for childrens shows. Weak Current? Childrens Shows? Is it any wonder why magic is held in such low regard by the general public. Are we so desperate for an audience response that we must lower ourselves to the electrocution of children? Or am I just getting to an age where I see the torturing of kids as not so entertaining?
Just curious.
"America's Foremost Satirical Magician" -- Jeff McBride.
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Dave V Inner circle Las Vegas, NV 4824 Posts |
As much as I'd like to sometimes, this is one trick that really should have never hit the market.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
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On 2006-06-22 02:32, Payne wrote: Wonderful! I might reconsider teaching. Thanks, I'll let the local school board know.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
Everything I hate about "magic."
And add the toilet paper roll stuff too. Laughs a-plenty. Jack Shalom
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Tripple action! What are the other two? I was thinking I might get one for my poker game to keep my partner on his toes.
It is a bit bad though, doing that to kids. Someone will get sued using that. Is that not assault?
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
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On 2006-06-22 08:58, tommy wrote: Depends on whether or not you are doing a memory experiment and wearing a lab coat last I heard. Just call it an ADD treatment and you can probably get the thing certified as a legit educational tool.
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Well payne fine if you want to limit those of us without actual skills then fine do so.
When your not so entertaining let me tell you something bud, NOTHING and I mean NOTHING is more helpfull than lighting up the birthday boy or girl! I have tried the bra trick many times and just can't get the responce I want. If I have to actualy put an audience member in danger to satisfy my ego and fantasy of being a performer, well that is a small sacrifice. After all who has to carry it? ME! I say bravo to the inventer. Have not children been torturing entertainers for hundreds of years? Bout time we have a way to nail the little rats! Ok I confess I don't do kids shows, never really did. BUT I can't imagine shocking an audience member(which many products actually do) is in good taste.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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kregg Inner circle 1950 Posts |
"Okay, Kids!
We've come to the part of our show, we like to call; Capital Punishment... Watch what it does to your balloon poodle. Come on up here Mom and Dad!
POOF!
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Josh the Superfluous Inner circle The man of 1881 Posts |
Their little grubby hands don't conduct as well as you'd think. I always turn it up to 11.
I'd call it assault. Maybe worse if the kid has a weak heart.
What do you want in a site? "Honesty, integrity and decency." -Mike Doogan
"I hate it, I hate my ironic lovechild. I didn't even have anything to do with it" Josh #2 |
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Patrick Differ Inner circle 1540 Posts |
Not a good idea. Electrical currents have a knack for disrupting nerve impulses. Our body relies heavily on those.
But maybe a really good idea for teachers...
Will you walk into my parlour? said the Spider to the Fly,
Tis the prettiest little parlour that ever you did spy; The way into my parlour is up a winding stair, And I've a many curious things to show when you are there. Oh no, no, said the little Fly, to ask me is in vain, For who goes up your winding stair -can ne'er come down again. |
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Whit Haydn V.I.P. 5449 Posts |
I don't see how it is any different from the cattle prods so many of the top kids performers always carry...
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
Let's all say the magic word... "ABRA-KIDAVER".
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
Talk about putting someone in the Hot Seat!
Who is advertising this, anyway?
"The Swatter"
Founder of CODBAMMC My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups." www.cupsandballsmuseum.com |
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RandyStewart Inner circle Texas (USA) 1989 Posts |
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On 2006-06-22 02:32, Payne wrote: And some adults like myself. It might just make me say a loud "ouch" and jump five feet away but I don't like things that make me do that in the first place! I won't even continue here where I left off at another thread with 72,000 pages on a electrical device supposedly used for magic related effects only. I was foolish enough to go in there and be the opposition in regards to it's use on the unsuspecting. No one heard me or even cared. I knew every one of those waiting for it's release wanted to go zap the living hell out of someone. Oh sure it's a barrel of laughs. Never did like any of this stuff. Just out of curiosity, what could a magician owning such an electrical chair do if the spectator jumped from the seat (due to the charge) and firmly holding onto the chair, banged it on the floor long enough and hard enough to break it. Any legal recourse especially after it's been proven the chair was wired to electrocute the spectator? |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Well if you are going to make them into pies, perhaps that is the most humane treatment.
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Bill Palmer Eternal Order Only Jonathan Townsend has more than 24312 Posts |
This kind of thing, as well as the shocking thing, whatever the Hell they call it, and stopping a watch with a PK magnet are three of the stupidest things I can think of some so-called magician doing. I have seen one application of the shocking chair that made sense, and it wasn't done on a child. The very idea of doing this to a child is beyond the pale.
"The Swatter"
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CJRichard Special user Massachusetts 542 Posts |
Jonathan,
If you're going to make them into pies, you need a razor and Angela Lansbury.
"You know some of you are laughin', but there's people here tryin' to learn. . ." -Pop Haydn
"I know of no other art that proclaims itself 'easy to do.'" -Master Payne Ezekiel the Green |
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Whit Haydn V.I.P. 5449 Posts |
The ungaffed method of shocking chair is much superior and more fun anyway.
Ricki Dunn was a master with this, using "instant stooges" from the audience. The spectators are qualified, subverted, trained how to act, and cued all in front ot the audience in the act of "fake hypnotism." It is truly hysterical, completely non-offensive and non-painful, and makes the spectator feel like a performer instead of a sap. It is available from Norm Nielson in a booklet called "Zapped!" The electric one is mean-spirited, dangerous, and not very funny. It is a law suit waiting to happen, and worse, it is not the original. The original was the stooge method, which was "improved worse" by someone who didn't have the performing sense to know how to control and cue the spectator. Ricki's book explains all of this in detail, with original methods so clever they will make you laugh, and make you want to perform the effect just because it is so wickedly set up. And you don't have to travel with a chair. You can carry everything you need for this effect in your jacket pocket. |
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Josh the Superfluous Inner circle The man of 1881 Posts |
Maybe someone could come up with an entirely gimmicked hypnotism show that any one could do, using electronic shockers and concealed syringes.
What do you want in a site? "Honesty, integrity and decency." -Mike Doogan
"I hate it, I hate my ironic lovechild. I didn't even have anything to do with it" Josh #2 |
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RandyStewart Inner circle Texas (USA) 1989 Posts |
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On 2006-06-23 04:36, Whit Haydn wrote: I wasn't aware of Ricki Dunn's book. Thank you for the information Whit. You are right about this electronic version being "improved worse". |
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